FAI Investigate Alleged Racist Abuse Of Zayed

[SwanVsDalton]

Sorry, you're right. I actually don't understand why Kenny made it public (I disagree that it would have gone public eventually anyway, not to the extent of not only a club but a player being named), because he's brought a whole pile of sh!te on himself and Zayed if nothing can be proven.

For me the FAI leaks like a sieve and I'd be surprised if someone didn't spill it to the media (or maybe a decent journo does his job). But I take your point.

[Dodge]

Pats were contacted by the Derry press about it so I don't think the FAI is the leak here (although they are, of course, riddled)

[Rasputin]

I wouldn't call that racist either. Zayed choose to play for Gaddafi's national side.

If a player decides to ridule him for supporting a tyrant, it cannot be racism in my opinion.

Oh my word, you wait and you hope for a gem like this once every few threads and the BAM you get it.
When handed this absolute gem its difficult to know really what to do with it, only pause from laughing to re-read again and again.
Oh dear, oh dear.

[horton]

There's a fair few contenders for Post of the Month in here, and I'm not just referring to Mr A's Fr Ted quote.

[Derry]

Why isn't the player who's accused of racism not on the media shouting about his innocence. Why isn't Rovers not making him tell everyone he's hasn't done anything. I mean if you were innocent you would do it.

[Charlie Darwin]

Because mud sticks. Keeping his identity secret is the only way he's going to emerge with his reputation intact.

[Ezeikial]

Because mud sticks. Keeping his identity secret is the only way he's going to emerge with his reputation intact.

Agreed, but it assumes that the player in question actually has a reputation to retain!

[culloty82]

Very interesting piece on Zayed in this month's When Saturday Comes (published before last week's events) - in fairness, they have regularly published articles on events in the League of Ireland.

[Dodge]

Oh he has a reputation alright...

[marinobohs]

Oh he has a reputation alright...

Oh, My, God,its Ryan Giggs isnt it

[placid casual]

Oh he has a reputation alright...

Do you mean Zayed,or his alleged accuser?

[sundance kid]

Unlike Jicked linking Bohs keeper to convicted Austrian paedophile in this very thread ? Did your high moral standards miss that ?

SDCC stadium - the home of Irish Hypocracy

Oh dear, the almighty homophobe is digging even deeper

[hoops1]

[QUOTE=SkStu;1498646]The insinuation being made here is that the gypoweb was homophobic as a result of a couple of ill advised posts. I just want to point out that the posts were deleted and the poster reprimanded by posters and moderators for his comments.
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Sorry to go back to this, Where did i mention Gypoweb. Marinobohs himself was on gypoweb making homophobic remarks. Yet he is on here lecturing about Racism.

[bluemovie]

It'd be great to take the party politics out of this thread. An accusation of racism shouldn't be a chance for one-upmanship between rival clubs. No fan could guarantee 100% that not one of their club's players or fans would be capable of saying something racist. If there's racism in the league, then it's bad for the league as a whole. While I'd normally criticise the media's negative coverage of the League of Ireland, if this is true then the league deserves some bad PR. The Murphy Report was bad for Ireland's image - that doesn't mean it should have been kept secret. It means we should address it. Same applies here.

Maybe both allegations are unfounded - I don't know - but they should be discussed with a bit of rational perspective rather than trying to nail one club or another. If what's been reported is true, calling Zayed "Gadaffi" certainly is racist. It's a slur based on his ethnic background. In my opinion, there are different levels of racism. I remember being referred to as a 'Mick' once in America. It was annoying, I eventually lost my temper and the guy never said it again. It was what I would call the lower end of racial taunt. Calling Zayed "Gadaffi" is not THE worst thing that could be said, but it is racist. His personal offence would also have been increased due to his present family circumstances. But whether it's the lower or higher end of racism is irrelevant as we supposedly have a zero tolerance approach to racism in our league. If either incident is proven to have happened, then the player and fan in question should be punished severely and it might stop the next idiot from mouthing off (possibly in the ignorant belief that what they said wasn't racist).

Some people are just stupid.

That's arguably the most truthful and appropriate statement in the thread. It's difficult to legislate for the depths of some people's stupidity.

One other point I'd like to make is about the Zayeds in the media. One of the things I like about this league is the accessibility of players and the sense of community. I think it's positive that the likes of Eamon Zayed, Conan Byrne or Stephen Henderson would engage with fans by writing an extratime column. I don't think that makes them "media whores". The next bit might make me sound overly-PC to some people and I'm not saying I'm innocent here (I've cracked my share of jokes), but it's a bit pathetic that as soon as a woman (Louise Zayed in this case) has some involvement in the league, it's ok to taunt her brother about 'how she takes it'. It really sounds like us Neanderthal LoI fans want to run off any woman who might step onto our territory. Not doing us any favours really.

[bluemovie]

Roughly how many players of (chooses words carefully) different ethnicity do we have playing in the league??

All of them.

[marinobohs]

[QUOTE=hoops1;1498922]

The insinuation being made here is that the gypoweb was homophobic as a result of a couple of ill advised posts. I just want to point out that the posts were deleted and the poster reprimanded by posters and moderators for his comments.
QUOTE]

Sorry to go back to this, Where did i mention Gypoweb. Marinobohs himself was on gypoweb making homophobic remarks. Yet he is on here lecturing about Racism.

Lecturing ? I actually said I didnt know what hapened in Tallaght Humoured you enough as it is off topic (and a sad attempt at Diversion) so if you want to continue do so via PM or on bohs.com (I dont use alwaysultras site so cant continue there but you are obviously a fan of Bohs.com ).

[Dodge]

Nice, well intentioned, syrup filled drivel there bluemovie

So now you're saying that ALL women would be offended by a song sung by "Neanderthal" fans about one single lady? Thats pretty patronising IMO, and far more offensive to most women than a song about Louise Zayed

[hoops1]

I remember the same song was sung about Posh Spice in OT by thousands of fans.
When asked about it later, she replied " I know did you hear it? I wonder how they all know"

[horton]

So that makes it grand then? How many women do you know that would join in shouting such comments? That's a pretty weak defence if I'm honest.

[sullanefc]

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Very sensible post bluemovie, and I agree with every word that you have said. Some of the posts on this thread of been ridiculously childish. A lot of them coming from people who should know better and some from a moderator.

I found the few pages where posters were bickering over the definition of racism particularly sad. If you can't see that a man of Libyan descent being called "Gaddafi" as being racist then, in my opinion, you are trying to justify it.

I would be shocked if Zayed is making this up. Why would he? People who are calling him an "attention seeker" who is "playing the race card" are being particularly ignorant and are clearly trying to assassinate his character for the sole purpose of defending a player at their club. Grow up will ye.