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    With the passing of this new rule and all the talk about who will sign for who next season could I ask is there any club loyalty in Limerick? Do many players go through the ranks with the same club from schoolboy to minor to junior? For example, how many of the all conquering Pike Rovers team have been with that club from schoolboy to present?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hoops38 View Post
    They could sign for prospect.
    they would be more than welcome in Prospect, you still havent answered my question, which Aiden am I suppose to be, or are you shying away from answering it.
    Last edited by lfc at heart; 16/06/2011 at 7:26 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barryk View Post
    make partial changes to exclude the kids?
    I agree it should only apply to senior players, as far as Im aware you cant have 2 teams from the same club in the same league, that was spoken about on the div1A thread already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hoops38 View Post
    I think he played for sporting fingal but i stand to be corrected he is very good friends with Connie he done the A license with him, he must be 35/36 will do a job do.
    i think you are right about sporting fingal.maher was a very good premier league of ireland player.if any way fit im sure he will be a great signing for pike.would he need to relocate to limerick?i presume he is dublin based?

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    Bobby Ryan played most recently for St.Pats, Galway Utd, Limerick FC, Sporting Fingal (signed and a week later the club went out of existence, never played a single game) and now Galway again. He lives in Dublin so would be a suprise to see him sign for pike unless they paid him very well, guaranteed he started and unless Galway released him paid Galway a fee to sign him.

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    Wow, it's a great idea in principle but it really needs to be looked at again. U-19's and A players will be classed as LOI players even if they only play a minute? What a joke, that part should be thrown out and it should be changed to only 4 ex-LOI players who have played LOI in the last 2 or 3 years (or some amount like that). That should still have the desired effect of spreading out the top talent without the problems some have mentioned for youngsters and lads who tried LOI and never made it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by streaker View Post
    Young lads coming up the ranks with there clubs respectfully,wont have a clue where they stand,if they sign with LOI clubs and dont make the grade then they are in limbo,careers ruined before they start.Plus u are going to have objection after objection after objection.
    Boys o boys o boys .Pike Fairview St micheals Clonmel ect are always going to be strong ,like i said before ,objection after objection after objection.Just lets see what happens and stop all the brikering.
    one for all and all for one

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    That rule will be ruled out of order like it should have been on the night,watch this space,the fai will not stop any ex loi player from playing junior football for any club,they will only try and promote the game,pike had 9 and fairview more or less the same last year and the fai hadn't a problem with that had they?clubs should be interested in what's going on in their own clubs instead of worrying about what other clubs are doing.it you can play in fai junior cup and mj cup surely to god you must be able to play in your own league,

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    Quote Originally Posted by nononsense View Post
    with the passing of this new rule and all the talk about who will sign for who next season could i ask is there any club loyalty in limerick? Do many players go through the ranks with the same club from schoolboy to minor to junior? For example, how many of the all conquering pike rovers team have been with that club from schoolboy to present?
    kilmallock utd

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    As I said to ya watch this space,this is a personal thing with one particular club,oh the jealousy,how come it is only a problem now,what about the last few years,the green eyed monster,

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    New Regulations

    The main problem with this rule is that it was rushed through during the AGM. The motion was put forth and implimented all in the same night. To me thats a disaster! There is no way that the representatives of each club and the LDMC had time to discuss, and reflect upon, all the matters that would stem from this.

    Certainly a rule like this is ment to benifit by:
    1) encouraging clubs to use the players coming through their underage set up instead of signing newly released players from the LOI.
    2) put a stop to players jumping from one junior club to another. ie players who have played U19, A Champ or Senior LOI, wont find it as easy to leave one junior club for another when there are four players already at that other club with the same tag.
    3) It will spread the wealth of players with LOI experience among different clubs instead of them all going to the same one.

    What the final decision makers failed to see was that there are some nasty consequences to the rule:
    1) It will mean some players (especially players coming from Minor) will not sign for LOI teams (U19 incl) in the fear that if they dont make it and find it hard to get back into some of the junior teams. - Which could restrict some players development.
    2) The effect of the rule, certainly in the short term, will be to halt the progress of some of the top clubs, who have historically done Limerick proud throughout the history of Junior football. - It is not an arguement to say that it does not affect them at National level. A simple fact that they cant play the same team in the League and then in these Cups, will affect them. This decision merely serves to make the league more competative by pulling some teams back to others teams standards (no offence is intended).
    3) This rule will also be harmful to Senior football in Limerick although I do know that was not at the forfront of the decision makers minds. - It will be harder to convince good players to join LFC. I know there has never been much harmony among Junior and Senior but it doesnt mean its right in continuing this way.

    There should be some exceptions attached to the rule like:
    1) If a player has come through the underage set up of a junior club, he can return to that club at any stage, having played LOI, without having this tag attached to him.
    2) A player need be playing U19, A Champ and/or LOI for a total of three years (does not need to be consecutive) before this tag be attached.
    3) The tag of being a LOI player should be takin away following three years away from LOI football.

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    Very well said fairball,I agree 100% that clubs voted in this rule without prior discussion with their own respective committees,most if not all clubs only heard about this after it was voted in,and that's a fact,as you say players with a few years loi experience would come into this category,no problem with that,but for players that are out of loi for 5 years or more is an out and out joke,and the young guys who have spent maybe a year or so playing u19 or A championship football to be in the same boat is utter madness,a bit of common sense is needed by both the clubs and the ldmc on this one because it's gonna run and run.

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    Here we go again clubs talking about bringing players in from Galway and Dublin and other league of Ireland clubs and 2 minutes later complaining about about the 4 player rule.

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    Does it really matter where they come from?what a stupid comment,haven't we a team from Poland in our league and I don't hear any complaints about them,how do you know what level of football they have played in Poland,grow up blueboy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theboywonder8 View Post
    Does it really matter where they come from?what a stupid comment,haven't we a team from Poland in our league and I don't hear any complaints about them,how do you know what level of football they have played in Poland,grow up blueboy.
    it should matter where they come from, there are lads on here(not yourself)saying that we'll lose good local players from the league but does bringing in ex loi do anything to benefit these players, personally i don't think so, for most of the LOI lads at pike and fairview there is proabably a local lad sitting on the bench or playing for the B team, where is the benefit in that

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    Quote Originally Posted by blueboy2 View Post
    Here we go again clubs talking about bringing players in from Galway and Dublin and other league of Ireland clubs and 2 minutes later complaining about about the 4 player rule.
    Sean maher is working in limerick and bobby ryan is coming back to live in limerick, Galway will be folding soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mulla View Post
    it should matter where they come from, there are lads on here(not yourself)saying that we'll lose good local players from the league but does bringing in ex loi do anything to benefit these players, personally i don't think so, for most of the LOI lads at pike and fairview there is proabably a local lad sitting on the bench or playing for the B team, where is the benefit in that
    How many locals have AA Not Many alot of there players come from different counties, if they are living or working in limerick why not sign them, it will also help the next oscar trainer manager that quality players are in the league.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theboywonder8 View Post
    Does it really matter where they come from?what a stupid comment,haven't we a team from Poland in our league and I don't hear any complaints about them,how do you know what level of football they have played in Poland,grow up blueboy.
    What is wrong with you boywonder you need to get out of crossagalla more often the reason clubs voted for the 4 player rule is because Pike are turning in to a fully professional Premier team in what is an amateur league.
    Also for those who dont know who Maher and Ryan are they are PROFESSIONAL league of Ireland players and also to answer you on the Polish team in Limerick if any of them were Professional back home im sure Connie would have them up in Crossagalla aswell.
    Like a lot of people on here im GROWN up enough to know whats going on in football in this town.
    Oh and by the way im not Aidan or Gerry or Shane or Paul for tht matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theboywonder8 View Post
    This rule will not go through,and aishling needn't worry bout their players being poached because their harmless
    they have.nt the decensy to fulfill their fixtures and they want rule changes

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    Quote Originally Posted by streaker View Post
    Boys o boys o boys .Pike Fairview St micheals Clonmel ect are always going to be strong ,like i said before ,objection after objection after objection.Just lets see what happens and stop all the brikering.
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