Transfer Rumours - Summer 2011

**elroy** · 19/08/2011, 1:01 PM

Originally Posted by Stuttgart88

I'll reference the sources later, but there were a few reports during the week that Arsenal want Kevin Doyle to replace Bendtner.

His peno miss last week wouldnt have helped his chances. Might be something in it, as Wenger needs to get players in quick but doesnt seem to be having much luck so far.

**SkStu** · 20/08/2011, 6:56 AM

I presume this Rob Elliott character is eligible for Ireland? Dont think ive heard of him before now?

**DannyInvincible** · 20/08/2011, 7:36 AM

Originally Posted by SkStu

I presume this Rob Elliott character is eligible for Ireland? Dont think ive heard of him before now?

Not familiar with him myself, although I do note that the 'international' section of his Wikipedia page states very simply and forthrightly:

International

Elliot made his international debut for the Republic of Ireland Under 19 team.

Who could argue with that?

**BonnieShels** · 20/08/2011, 5:33 PM

The IFA for one.

**elroy** · 22/08/2011, 10:50 AM

With the Keane and Longs move now done and dusted, are we likely to see any of our lads move in the last few hectic days of the window?

More talk of Doyle to Arsenal again, but very unlikely.

Gibson may move, to where, who knows!

**CraftyToePoke** · 22/08/2011, 2:05 PM

Originally Posted by elroy

With the Keane and Longs move now done and dusted, are we likely to see any of our lads move in the last few hectic days of the window?

Duffy and Clifford but I suppose both those will be loans so may not happen just yet, but will be interesting ones, Championship for both probably.

With young guys like McCann, Rooney, O'Brien, Brady, Mason, Kendrick having started well this season, that division will be worth keeping an eye on, also O'Brien in the side at West Ham, Clarke at Blackpool, Garvan featuring for Palace and Dicker stepping up with Brighton, you never know, a couple of more options will hopefully emerge.

**Eminence Grise** · 22/08/2011, 2:09 PM

Originally Posted by elroy

Gibson may move, to where, who knows!

Around midfield, with purpose and vigour, would be a start!

**Charlie Darwin** · 22/08/2011, 3:31 PM

Originally Posted by CraftyToePoke

Duffy and Clifford but I suppose both those will be loans so may not happen just yet, but will be interesting ones, Championship for both probably.

With young guys like McCann, Rooney, O'Brien, Brady, Mason, Kendrick having started well this season, that division will be worth keeping an eye on, also O'Brien in the side at West Ham, Clarke at Blackpool, Garvan featuring for Palace and Dicker stepping up with Brighton, you never know, a couple of more options will hopefully emerge.

Clifford mentioned Hamburg a few weeks ago. Chelsea have some sort of exchange deal with them similar to Man United's with Antwerp.

**Closed Account** · 22/08/2011, 4:06 PM

Originally Posted by elroy

Gibson may move, to where, who knows!

Blackburn Rovers rumours are resurrfacing.
http://www.clicklancashire.com/sport...er-gibson.html

**Stuttgart88** · 24/08/2011, 9:19 AM

Gibson to Villa?

Daily Mail

**BonnieShels** · 24/08/2011, 9:34 AM

Better move than Blackburn.

**Murfinator** · 24/08/2011, 12:12 PM

Villa have their captain Petrov, the young and promising Delph and Bannan as well as the potentially talented Stephen Ireland competing for 2 midfield spots at the moment. They've hogg as well making up the numbers. I can't see them wanting another and if they did I don't honestly see Gibson winning the battle against them for a starting spot.

**paul_oshea** · 24/08/2011, 2:12 PM

I honestly think half the managers in the EPL don't have a clue.

They automatically think cos ferguson brought gibson through the ranks that he must be a gem of some sort. If i were a premiership manager and based on anything I have seen of him on those games, I would not be looking to bring him in.

**Stuttgart88** · 24/08/2011, 2:49 PM

I actually think Gibson is OK, though I think he could do with a week's training with Leinster rugby to teach him a thing or two about getting physical.

**SwanVsDalton** · 24/08/2011, 3:08 PM

Originally Posted by Murfinator

Villa have their captain Petrov, the young and promising Delph and Bannan as well as the potentially talented Stephen Ireland competing for 2 midfield spots at the moment. They've hogg as well making up the numbers. I can't see them wanting another and if they did I don't honestly see Gibson winning the battle against them for a starting spot.

Makoun too, with Clark occasionally filling in.

Having said that McLeish has been looking for an athletic midfielder for sometime - linked to Parker, Barton etc. Petrov rarely has 90 minutes in him anymore, Delph is young and Makoun may get sold on. Hogg won't make it. Bannan and Ireland wouldn't suit that role. So I can see why they're looking at Gibson - even though Darron rarely appears particularly athletic.

**Charlie Darwin** · 24/08/2011, 3:10 PM

I'd have thought Gibson would be competing with Petrov - they're similar types of player.

**paul_oshea** · 24/08/2011, 3:12 PM

Originally Posted by SwanVsDalton

Makoun too, with Clark occasionally filling in.

Having said that McLeish has been looking for an athletic midfielder for sometime - linked to Parker, Barton etc. Petrov rarely has 90 minutes in him anymore, Delph is young and Makoun may get sold on. Hogg won't make it. Bannan and Ireland wouldn't suit that role. So I can see why they're looking at Gibson - even though Darron rarely appears particularly athletic.

Gibson as an athletic midfielder?

You must have a very different definition of athletic to me.

**SwanVsDalton** · 24/08/2011, 3:18 PM

Originally Posted by paul_oshea

Gibson as an athletic midfielder?

You must have a very different definition of athletic to me.

Nope. Do you read everything half-way?

Originally Posted by SwanVsDalton

Makoun too, with Clark occasionally filling in.

Having said that McLeish has been looking for an athletic midfielder for sometime - linked to Parker, Barton etc. Petrov rarely has 90 minutes in him anymore, Delph is young and Makoun may get sold on. Hogg won't make it. Bannan and Ireland wouldn't suit that role. So I can see why they're looking at Gibson - even though Darron rarely appears particularly athletic.

**paul_oshea** · 24/08/2011, 5:25 PM

Nope even if you hyphenate at the end to try and somewhat qualify what you said the whole statement then makes no sense.

LIke any good point well made, you use the TDT approach, the subject i.e. looking for an athletic midfielder, you give reasons as to why that is the subject i.e. the reasons why he is looking for an athletic midfielder given those currently at his disposal/available, you then conclude your point by saying "so i can see why they're looking at Gibson......

If your qualification at the end is your actual conclusion then you wouldn't or at least shouldn't have bothered with that paragraph and just left a blank.

**SwanVsDalton** · 24/08/2011, 5:58 PM

Originally Posted by paul_oshea

Nope even if you hyphenate at the end to try and somewhat qualify what you said the whole statement then makes no sense.

LIke any good point well made, you use the TDT approach, the subject i.e. looking for an athletic midfielder, you give reasons as to why that is the subject i.e. the reasons why he is looking for an athletic midfielder given those currently at his disposal/available, you then conclude your point by saying "so i can see why they're looking at Gibson......

If your qualification at the end is your actual conclusion then you wouldn't or at least shouldn't have bothered with that paragraph and just left a blank.

The statement makes complete sense. There are two conclusions. First - Villa are looking for an athletic type midfielder which Gibson is by reputation at least. He'd widely be considered to have an all-round game, can play defensively and burst forward and hit a decent pass. That's a objective assessment of why Villa could be linked to him.

The second conclusion is he isn't particularly athletic. That's a subjective assessment of his actual abilities. It was a throwaway FNAR FNAR. It wasn't particularly funny. But it doesn't invalidate the previous conclusion since they are not contradictory as one is Villa's possible view and the other is my own.

An example: If I'd said 'Oxford University are looking for an O'Shea to give sentence construction seminars, for x reasons, so they've been linked to paul_oshea' but then ended the par with 'but paul_oshea rarely constructs a good sentences' then it would still make perfect sense.

I don't know who I'm more miffed at - you, Paul, for provoking me, or me for taking the bait and spelling that out.