FIFA corruption allegations

**NeverFeltBetter** · 01/06/2014, 10:10 PM

Well, Russia, for all of its problems, is capable of hosting the tournament on a level that Qatar just isn't. It has built stadiums, a footballing tradition, and you can conceivably forsee the country having transport and other infrastructure issues sorted in the next four years. So the media and such just don't care as much.

**BonnieShels** · 02/06/2014, 1:10 AM

Originally Posted by NeverFeltBetter

Well, Russia, for all of its problems, is capable of hosting the tournament on a level that Qatar just isn't. It has built stadiums, a footballing tradition, and you can conceivably forsee the country having transport and other infrastructure issues sorted in the next four years. So the media and such just don't care as much.

I get the why. I just think it's funny.

**gastric** · 02/06/2014, 1:37 AM

Originally Posted by BonnieShels

Their issue will be with Qatar, the Qatar FA and The AFC. I'm sure there's enough money to keep em quiet.

I'd like to see it go to Oz in fairness it's a decent shout for a WC. All things being equal I would have had them as a shoo-in for that vote.

Funny how no-one is talking about 2018 and what could have been equally as bent a voting process...

Oz only got one vote to host the WC which I believe was the lowest score. It knocked them for six when they didn't get it, as they don't cope with failure easily. Oz could host it without having to completely rebuild infrastructure, though it would encourage their arrogance which makes English arrogance at sporting success seem mild.

**NeverFeltBetter** · 02/06/2014, 9:05 AM

I think Australia might just have a right to be bit haughty in this specific circumstance. Their bid receiving just one vote was criminal (quite literally, perhaps).

**pineapple stu** · 02/06/2014, 9:21 AM

Originally Posted by NeverFeltBetter

I think Australia might just have a right to be bit haughty in this specific circumstance. Their bid receiving just one vote was criminal (quite literally, perhaps).

More likely it was exact opposite of criminal.

Australia is a reasonably logical choice of host at some stage though.

**Closed Account 2** · 02/06/2014, 10:00 AM

Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin

Mexico stepped in as the 1986 host at three years' notice, so even though it's a bigger tournament I'd imagine somewhere like Germany or France could step in at short notice.

There is always the PlatiniFudge™ option of spreading the World Cup out into 6-7 countries like he’s doing for Euro 2020. It could seriously irritate the fans and the teams, but it was Michel's brainwave for solving Euro 2020 after he's messed around with Turkey in the Euro 2016 bidding.

Interesting that Platini voted for the Qatar bid (remind me who his son works for again?) and Blatter, for all his faults, apparently didn't.

**BonnieShels** · 02/06/2014, 9:40 PM

Originally Posted by NeverFeltBetter

I think Australia might just have a right to be bit haughty in this specific circumstance. Their bid receiving just one vote was criminal (quite literally, perhaps).

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

More likely it was exact opposite of criminal.

Australia is a reasonably logical choice of host at some stage though.

It's beyond logical. Maybe too logical. It's defintiely a World Cup I'd like to hit up too. For all their faults the Ozzies do sport really well.

Originally Posted by cfdh_edmundo

There is always the PlatiniFudge™ option of spreading the World Cup out into 6-7 countries like he’s doing for Euro 2020. It could seriously irritate the fans and the teams, but it was Michel's brainwave for solving Euro 2020 after he's messed around with Turkey in the Euro 2016 bidding.

Interesting that Platini voted for the Qatar bid (remind me who his son works for again?) and Blatter, for all his faults, apparently didn't.

There was barely a peep about that. After the bid was won there were murmurings and then not a lot.

Is it any wonder PSG won't get kicked out of the CL.

**gastric** · 02/06/2014, 10:36 PM

I wondered why there was not the usual carry on in Oz by the FFA ( we was robbed!) when news of these new allegations arose. I think every nation who bid are up to their eyes in crap and this could be a very interesting inquiry.

http://www.theage.com.au/fifa-world-...602-39eum.html

**NeverFeltBetter** · 03/06/2014, 3:38 PM

Report/probe will be published after the World Cup: http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/world...eport-to-come/

**NeverFeltBetter** · 05/06/2014, 4:15 PM

http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/world...uption-proven/

A lot of officials seem to be lining up behind a revote option. Flying kites and all that.

**pineapple stu** · 05/06/2014, 4:52 PM

Hm. On the one hand, I reckon FIFA may possibly be happy to get a way out of this. On the other hand, it would be quite the precedent to re-run an entire World Cup vote because of corruption, something I'm sure has never tainted FIFA at all in the past. Gonna be interesting to keep an eye on this.

**BonnieShels** · 05/06/2014, 6:56 PM

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Hm. On the one hand, I reckon FIFA may possibly be happy to get a way out of this. On the other hand, it would be quite the precedent to re-run an entire World Cup vote because of corruption, something I'm sure has never tainted FIFA at all in the past. Gonna be interesting to keep an eye on this.

Well the good thing is that the other World Cups have happened so they ain't re-running those votes. I think they'll draw a line in the sand and run a re-vote. Platini is backing a re-vote now.

Thing is the report now HAS to show that there was corruption because no other result is gonna be acceptable at this stage.

**pineapple stu** · 06/06/2014, 9:54 AM

Was talking about future World Cups!

England lose again, but it's ok - the Daily Mail has found evidence that a few quid was handed over by the winning Sierra Leonese contingent. Re-vote! Precedent! Rabble rabble rabble.

Repeat ad nauseum.

**BonnieShels** · 07/06/2014, 4:07 PM

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Was talking about future World Cups!

England lose again, but it's ok - the Daily Mail has found evidence that a few quid was handed over by the winning Sierra Leonese contingent. Re-vote! Precedent! Rabble rabble rabble.

Repeat ad nauseum.

Sorry, I was getting at the fact that they won't look into the corruption of past votes. Which no doubt there was.

**pineapple stu** · 07/06/2014, 4:32 PM

No doubt alright.

I think most people know how the game is played. Tbh it doesn't really bother me that much in general. Obviously stuff like whether 45 degree heat is suitable for a World Cup is a different matter.

**pineapple stu** · 08/06/2014, 9:23 PM

Sony, Visa and Adidas backing a full investigation.

This is gaining legs.

**NeverFeltBetter** · 08/06/2014, 10:57 PM

That's a pretty big deal right? Sponsors speaking out isn't something that usually happens. Though this gives me pause:

Both fans and sponsors would be likely to cheer a switch to a different venue, although Qatar would be certain to mount a legal challenge to keep the competition.

Promises to be a quagmire.

Edit: Or maybe not: http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/f...t-9507194.html

**Charlie Darwin** · 08/06/2014, 11:13 PM

Originally Posted by NeverFeltBetter

That's a pretty big deal right? Sponsors speaking out isn't something that usually happens. Though this gives me pause:

Promises to be a quagmire.

Sponsors do speak out when they have legitimate moral objections too, but I don't think this is one. I think it's a response to the controversy and the fact they think it could reflect badly on them and their investment.