Where are my posts?

**dahamsta** · 19/06/2004, 11:24 AM

Originally Posted by Pat O' Banton

This is the implication that I mean. Why is there a seperation between Ireland fans and Celtic fans? What I am pointing out is that Celtic fans can be Ireland fans just as they can support any club of their choice.

See, that's what I'm talking about. You quote me out of context to support your idiotic assertion. Typical Celtic fan behaviour.

So on the General football section you cannot post about Celtic?

And in response to Colm you completely ignore his comment/question -- if you're that mad about Celtic, why don't you go to a Celtic site?

That's why we don't want Celtic fans around here, they're unable to discuss topics in a reasonable, logical manner. Now go away.

adam

**liam88** · 19/06/2004, 5:19 PM

Not arguing, just a sincere question because I'm not that clear on it; are we allowed to talk about Celtic in general football or not?
I know that you said we should sign up to a Celtic site to talk about Celtic and I will but does that mean that we'll get banned/warned if we do mention Celtic in general football.
Obv. what you say goes and I'll respect that I just want some clearance on it-I will make my Celtic posts on another site but are we allowed to mention them in general football at all?

**dahamsta** · 22/06/2004, 12:32 PM

In all honesty I'd prefer you kept discussion of Celtic to dedicated Celtic sites. They have no place here and they attract muppets like flies to poo.

adam

**liam88** · 22/06/2004, 9:13 PM

Originally Posted by dahamsta

In all honesty I'd prefer you kept discussion of Celtic to dedicated Celtic sites.

O.k boss no probs

(no sarcasm)

**lopez** · 23/06/2004, 10:28 AM

Originally Posted by dahamsta

That's as far as I got "Pat O' Banton", my "Norf Landan" friend. I'll give you 24 hours to demonstrate the implication, and after that I'll dole out a ban like I do to all the rest of the accusatory muppets we get here that are unable to support their idiotic assertions with statements of fact.

Tick, tick, tick.

adam

Oh dear! More censorship by the Caudillo. It may have escaped your attention that a. Celtic was founded by an Irishman, b. that their initial client base were first generation Irish, c. most of their current fan base are descendents of these Irish people. It may have also escaped your attention that neither does someone cease being an Irishman/woman when they leave the country nor do they - to use an expression by Connor - become automatically Irish because of where their mother's waters broke. 'Bout time you grew up, or more preferably, take an evening course in modern Irish history, or at least a module dealing with emigration: I think this was quite a big event in the lives of many in Ireland pre 1997 (sarcasm, BTW, very much implied ).

**Dodge** · 23/06/2004, 10:49 AM

I'm totally anti censorship BUT I was wondering how long this would go on before somebody brought out the "Celtic are Irish" card...

**Macy** · 23/06/2004, 10:54 AM

Me too, but that's exactly the type of post that starts the ball rolling......

**max power** · 23/06/2004, 11:06 AM

get a big spoon and stir, stir , stir the sh1t.........

**lopez** · 23/06/2004, 11:18 AM

Originally Posted by Dodge

I'm totally anti censorship BUT I was wondering how long this would go on before somebody brought out the "Celtic are Irish" card...

It is pretty clear what Celtic are. A club in Scotland founded by an Irishman for the Irish community. And as winners of the European Cup (that's Champions League to you) on one occasion and runners up on another, I'm quite proud of a fellow Irishman's achievements. However there seems to be a few 'real' Irishmen on this board who think it's an opportunity to ban anyone who wants to talk about the side - even if it's just in the General Football section. Pretty sad IMO.

I've been critical of Celtic on a number of times - I'm not going to go through that again - and I'm not a great follower of their games. I haven't been to a Celtic game outside London for nearly 20 years. But sorry Dodge, much as you, Dahamsta and Macy like to act out your own little fantasy of being Winston Smith from George Orwell's 1984 in your efforts at either censorship or changing history, you'll just have to live with it.

BTW, Macy, nice to see you still sticking your face into my posts. I found an article in the Sunday Indo. I know you don't live in Longford but it's really funny but I thought of you teh moment I read it. Sweet George Alabama!!!

http://www.unison.ie/irish_independe...issue_id=11030

**max power** · 23/06/2004, 11:21 AM

good man lopez, you believe everything you read in the papers.....

i also read about celtic fans throwing bananas at coloured players, alabama parkhead perhaps ?????

**Dodge** · 23/06/2004, 11:28 AM

Originally Posted by lopez

It is pretty clear what Celtic are.

Exactly, so why mention it every ****ing time there's any talk about Celtic.

**Macy** · 23/06/2004, 11:30 AM

FFS, here we go again. Ban Celtic ffs.

**lopez** · 23/06/2004, 11:32 AM

Originally Posted by max power

get a big spoon and stir, stir , stir the sh1t.........

No need to stir it when you talk so much of it.

I'll take your word that Longford is a place of racial tolerence and Celtic Park is not. Personally I couldn't give a monkey's f*ck about either as I have no intention of visiting these two places in the foreseeable future.

What does concern me is the attempt at censorship and historical revision of Celtic as a club founded and initially patroned by what you would regard as 'real' Irish people and nowadays, these people's descendents. The story in the Indo may well be fantasy (once again for your convenience, I DON'T GIVE A F*CK) but Celtic's Irish origins are not. Why has that got nothing to do with Ireland? Why does dahamsta need the urge to ban anyone who talks about it? So we get muppets on here. What about 7 secretos' homophobia and racist remarks about South African blacks. No public ban there from the caudillo.

**lopez** · 23/06/2004, 11:35 AM

Originally Posted by Dodge

Exactly, so why mention it every ****ing time there's any talk about Celtic.

Why threaten to ban someone for expressing his opinion which included Irish fans should support their local team first and that Celtic be confined to the General football section. The consensus from dahamsta is that Celtic (unlike Man Ure, etc) has nothing to do with Ireland and therefore should not be on this board.

**Dodge** · 23/06/2004, 11:44 AM

Originally Posted by lopez

Why threaten to ban someone for expressing his opinion which included Irish fans should support their local team first and that Celtic be confined to the General football section. The consensus from dahamsta is that Celtic (unlike Man Ure, etc) has nothing to do with Ireland and therefore should not be on this board.

I've already said I'm against censorship but Celtic fans do themselves no favour when bringing up the same, totally unneccassary, points again and again...

I have no problem with people talking about Celtic in genreal football but for a mod in there it must get annoying when all threads end up with "Celtic are irish" arguments...

**tiktok** · 23/06/2004, 12:24 PM

The problem is as much down to those among us who have an irrational hatred of Celtic (jumping into threads we have no interest in) as much as it's down to abusive Celtic fans.

I've got no problem with anybody posting about Celtic on the General football section but you only have to look back over this thread to see why moderators get sick of them. The 'Celtic' threads usually run for ages and fill up very quickly as everyone seems to have an opinion (often extreme), there's been two pages added to this in an hour, and trawling through that to make sure nothing insulting or libellous has been written takes time.

By the way, it was all Hunky-Dory until Silvio Dante started in here, can't believe we haven't wound down form his efforts yet

**Colm** · 23/06/2004, 12:43 PM

Originally Posted by Macy

Ban Celtic ffs.

Yeah, it really is the only option.

I mean have a look at the stuff the usual Celtic suspects are saying on this thread and then look at how many times they and other posters have spouted nearly the exact same rubbish on countless other threads over the past year or so.

**lopez** · 23/06/2004, 12:53 PM

Originally Posted by Dodge

I have no problem with people talking about Celtic in genreal football but for a mod in there it must get annoying when all threads end up with "Celtic are irish" arguments...

This thread was started by Son of Erin wondering why his posts were binned. His first one was harmless enough: see http://foot.ie/showthread.php?t=15008. It was his quip that Celtic is the only team worth following that was the pivotal moment in the binning. Personally I don't agree with him, but hey that's his choice. Didn't insult anyone but gets binned. He then posts about celtic in the EL section. A p*ss take or perhaps he's not the full Euro? Who cares. Didn't insult anyone. Didn't come out with insulting references to Prods, Gays or something close to my heart, Plastics, like a few of posters that are still free to roam (Ah yes, I'm too PC I know). Didn't say Celtic were an Irish club either.

Further down we have Dahamsta laying into Liam88 because he suggests 'to keep the faith.' Remember Liam being given the yellow card over asking for a Celtic section - much as I'd disagree with such a proposal - while others continue to spout sh*te.

In fact so far no mention of Ireland as an Irish club. Then comes top contender for the Planky Gang's next president, Colm - no you never repeat yourself do you? - with his 'save your Scottish crap for a site where people actually give a sh!t'. I could say the same about anything he writes because I've yet to read anything of substance unless you count garbage as substance. Take him to task about anything - like I did about his blinkered views of Irishness and the diaspora - and he f*cks off and sulks. Now the big baby wants to ban people too.

Probably only way anyone will take him seriously.

Funny no mention about that in your 'wonder when you were gonna bring up Celtic is Irish line' Dodge?

Originally Posted by tiktok

The problem is as much down to those among us who have an irrational hatred of Celtic (jumping into threads we have no interest in) as much as it's down to abusive Celtic fans.

I've got no problem with anybody posting about Celtic on the General football section but you only have to look back over this thread to see why moderators get sick of them. The 'Celtic' threads usually run for ages and fill up very quickly as everyone seems to have an opinion (often extreme), there's been two pages added to this in an hour, and trawling through that to make sure nothing insulting or libellous has been written takes time.

By the way, it was all Hunky-Dory until Silvio Dante started in here, can't believe we haven't wound down form his efforts yet

Tiktok, I had no intention of going onto any thread about Celtic until I heard from Sylvo - convalescing in his ranch in Kildare at the moment - that a fatwah was about to be handed down to Pat O'B. For what? For expressing a perfectly reasoned opinion.

As for Silvio Dante, well he's past his best - call it burnout if you wish - but his rantings about RMK and McC are still far more contentious and libelous than anything P O'B or son of Erin have said. However I'd still support his right to say them.

**Macy** · 23/06/2004, 1:00 PM

Originally Posted by Colm

Yeah, it really is the only option.

I mean have a look at the stuff the usual Celtic suspects are saying on this thread and then look at how many times they and other posters have spouted nearly the exact same rubbish on countless other threads over the past year or so.

Personally, I feel the people that persist are just wind-up merchants at this stage. They know the reaction they'll get yet come back for more. If it was a Ramblers fan on the Cork forum they'd have been banned at this stage.

Everyone knows Celtic's history, it's just arguing about it's relevance some 112 years later, and very little to do with the actual football played. If it was just about the football then it should be in the General Forum (and any posting anywhere else should be binned not moved). There's a thread which people can go around in circles on the issue all they want, any other's should be binned (not moved). IMHO of course.