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**thomas72** · 14/05/2011, 10:19 AM

how peter hynes stayed on the field ill never know he is beyond useless and putting judgey out on the right in the 2nd half was crazy he is the engine of the midfield and to take him out of there was maddness. it was like mons all over again 95mins free header dont know how he missed it its lucky for scully he did miss it his crazy tactics and subs nearly cost us again.

**Jofspring** · 14/05/2011, 11:00 AM

Hynes didn't have one of his best games but he has been one of our best players so far this season. C.Tracey, O'Flynn and Paudie Quinn where poor too. Waterford had a free header to level it but O'Flynn had a free header narrowly go over as it looked destined for the top corner and Calla had one just narrowly go over also so we could have been well ahead also. Scully started off with the normal formation 4-3-3 that he has been going with all season but then when Frost got injured and they started getting more success out wide he switched to 4-4-2 to get two wingers out there and two centre midfielders to steady it a bit. O'Leary asked Scully to come off because he was injured so thats why White came in there. Waterford got a bit more success down Frosts wing after he played on injured but we managed to hang on. Scully was screaming at the team to stop dropping deep and just get rid of the ball but we managed to drop deeper and deeper and try and play it out which heaped more pressure on us. Waterford didn't actually trouble us till the last 5 minutes so it would have been harsh if they came away with anything. If it was Shels or Cork that played poor and won it like that last night we'd say thats the different in class. We need to take the wins when we can get them no matter how they come about. C.Tracey has had two poor games from what I have seen this season, 1 against Wexford and 1 against Waterford, barr that he has been very solid. Thought O'Leary, Judge, S.Tracey, Calla, Purcell and Ryan had very good games, Frost only got poor after his injury. What I liked last night was the fact Frost was willing to give Purcell a bollocking at one stage when he started dropping two deep. At least this year there are more experienced players there willing to do this rather than leave it all up to Purcell.

First series of games is over, we are two points behind automatic promotion and only 5 behind 1st. Not bad really. The Wexford result is the only one to really **** us up.

Need to go out next week and do a job on Finn Harps. They will probably come very defensive so it could take a while to break them down.

**harpin** · 14/05/2011, 11:29 AM

Originally Posted by Jofspring

Scully was screaming at the team to stop dropping deep and just get rid of the ball.

And how does that make sense? If he was screaming hold on to the ball then we wouldn't be dropping deeper but if you're constantly getting rid you're inviting pressure on you and will drop deeper....I made this point further up the page...confuses the players...nerves set in....all caused by him

**Jofspring** · 14/05/2011, 12:03 PM

Originally Posted by harpin

And how does that make sense? If he was screaming hold on to the ball then we wouldn't be dropping deeper but if you're constantly getting rid you're inviting pressure on you and will drop deeper....I made this point further up the page...confuses the players...nerves set in....all caused by him

It was the defenders he was screaming get rid of it to when they where delaying on the ball. It was when the midfield and strikers had the ball he was telling them to hold onto it. They where needlessly trying to play quick ball in the middle of the park and lost possession a few times this way instead of holding onto the ball and relieve the pressure form the back 4.

Waterford where always due a good spell and they got that in the last few minutes.

We've only lost two games this season, 1 to Cork and 1 to a Wexford team that we really should be beating. All in all that ain't bad for the first series of games.

Finn Harps: Drew with them, usually not a bad result up there but they have been on a terrible run since. Lost Garry Sheehan, O'Flynn for 3 games and Purcell for Cork.
Salthill: Won comfortably
Cork: Lost narrowly but with one of the poorest teams we have started with this season.
Longford: Won comfortable enough barr a little scare. Good result when you Longford have been on a great run since.
Shels: Drew, a good result up there and they certainly did not look way better than us. We dominated the first half and them the second.
Wexford: Shocking result. Bad day.
Mervue: Won comfortably, a team other teams have struggle against.
Athlone: Won comfortably, again a team other teams have struggled against even though they aren't great.
Monaghan: A draw is a good result up there, Shels and Waterford both lost to them. We probably should have won but didn't.
Waterford: Another win, thought we where comfortable most of the game but where needlessly under pressure in the end.

I probably would have taken that at the start of the season. Now we have Cork, Shels and Monaghan having to come to Limerick in the next round of games. Continue to take points away from home and pick up 3 at home in most the games and we will be right in it. Gary Sheehan hopefully returning in July or August too.

Anyone know where McCarthy was?

**bluewhitearmy** · 14/05/2011, 2:16 PM

Originally Posted by Jofspring

It was the defenders he was screaming get rid of it to when they where delaying on the ball. It was when the midfield and strikers had the ball he was telling them to hold onto it. They where needlessly trying to play quick ball in the middle of the park and lost possession a few times this way instead of holding onto the ball and relieve the pressure form the back 4.

Waterford where always due a good spell and they got that in the last few minutes.

We've only lost two games this season, 1 to Cork and 1 to a Wexford team that we really should be beating. All in all that ain't bad for the first series of games.

Finn Harps: Drew with them, usually not a bad result up there but they have been on a terrible run since. Lost Garry Sheehan, O'Flynn for 3 games and Purcell for Cork.
Salthill: Won comfortably
Cork: Lost narrowly but with one of the poorest teams we have started with this season.
Longford: Won comfortable enough barr a little scare. Good result when you Longford have been on a great run since.
Shels: Drew, a good result up there and they certainly did not look way better than us. We dominated the first half and them the second.
Wexford: Shocking result. Bad day.
Mervue: Won comfortably, a team other teams have struggle against.
Athlone: Won comfortably, again a team other teams have struggled against even though they aren't great.
Monaghan: A draw is a good result up there, Shels and Waterford both lost to them. We probably should have won but didn't.
Waterford: Another win, thought we where comfortable most of the game but where needlessly under pressure in the end.

I probably would have taken that at the start of the season. Now we have Cork, Shels and Monaghan having to come to Limerick in the next round of games. Continue to take points away from home and pick up 3 at home in most the games and we will be right in it. Gary Sheehan hopefully returning in July or August too.

Anyone know where McCarthy was?

He was sick last few days hadnt recovered for lastnight.

As for someone saying Hynes is crap he has been our best player this year.

**bluewhitearmy** · 14/05/2011, 2:25 PM

Originally Posted by capello

It seems to me that some fans will never be happy with what Scully achieves.The players have to take some responsibility for the way they perform and continue to drop off late on in games,as for Judge moving out wide it he was the only one making any breaks through the Waterford defence and making our only clear chances of the 2nd half.

Theres a few lads that just personally dont like Scully they find something wrong with anything he does so i wouldnt pay too much attention to some of them.

Dont know who Harpin is so cant say if he is one of those people.

True what Jof said if it was Cork or Shels that had done that to us we would be saying thats the difference that they can get results not playing well. That was the strongest team Waterford had been able to put out in ages with the return of their main attcking players from injury and suspension.

Judge on the wing is very good played there against Mervue,Athlone and Monaghan and they were probabaly our 3 best performances this year.

We are in a good position after the 1st series of games and we still have Gary Sheehan to come back even sooner then that we have Chris Breen to come back and surely O'Flynn is too good to play so poorly for much longer i think he just needs a goal or 2 to get his confidence back.

**da bishop** · 14/05/2011, 8:30 PM

it is a great 3pts,so for the diehards thats the important thing,for anyone else that might not be enough,the football played last night was quite poor and sometimes people want to see a good game,the standard in recent games has,n been good enough to keep or entice those extra followers we need.think the criticism of hynes is unjustified,he is trying his heart out and making a decent contribution,however the same cant be said for o connor unfit and disinterested,o flynn should start concentrating on his own game and quit the constant moaning at everyone else and then theres purcell an example to all and the best centrehalf in the division.scully will be really judged on results so if that means a negative change works for him to see out the 3pts so be it as long as the points are secured.

**abbeyvale** · 15/05/2011, 12:28 AM

Originally Posted by capello

Where is everyone,there is only 422 at the match,up 1-0 and doing ok.

The club must have counted the kids in the Hyde Park across the road aswell, coz there was no way over 400 at that game on Friday.

**abbeyvale** · 15/05/2011, 12:32 AM

Originally Posted by Jofspring

Hynes didn't have one of his best games but he has been one of our best players so far this season. C.Tracey, O'Flynn and Paudie Quinn where poor too. Waterford had a free header to level it but O'Flynn had a free header narrowly go over as it looked destined for the top corner and Calla had one just narrowly go over also so we could have been well ahead also. Scully started off with the normal formation 4-3-3 that he has been going with all season but then when Frost got injured and they started getting more success out wide he switched to 4-4-2 to get two wingers out there and two centre midfielders to steady it a bit. O'Leary asked Scully to come off because he was injured so thats why White came in there. Waterford got a bit more success down Frosts wing after he played on injured but we managed to hang on. Scully was screaming at the team to stop dropping deep and just get rid of the ball but we managed to drop deeper and deeper and try and play it out which heaped more pressure on us. Waterford didn't actually trouble us till the last 5 minutes so it would have been harsh if they came away with anything. If it was Shels or Cork that played poor and won it like that last night we'd say thats the different in class. We need to take the wins when we can get them no matter how they come about. C.Tracey has had two poor games from what I have seen this season, 1 against Wexford and 1 against Waterford, barr that he has been very solid. Thought O'Leary, Judge, S.Tracey, Calla, Purcell and Ryan had very good games, Frost only got poor after his injury. What I liked last night was the fact Frost was willing to give Purcell a bollocking at one stage when he started dropping two deep. At least this year there are more experienced players there willing to do this rather than leave it all up to Purcell.

First series of games is over, we are two points behind automatic promotion and only 5 behind 1st. Not bad really. The Wexford result is the only one to really **** us up.

Need to go out next week and do a job on Finn Harps. They will probably come very defensive so it could take a while to break them down.

Lads, does anyone know why Yellow isn't even being named in the matchday squads these days??? he isn't injured and surely has something to offer!!!!!!!!

**bluewhitearmy** · 15/05/2011, 2:12 AM

Originally Posted by abbeyvale

Lads, does anyone know why Yellow isn't even being named in the matchday squads these days??? he isn't injured and surely has something to offer!!!!!!!!

He saw something he wasnt meant to.