Barstoolers Love-In

**marinobohs** · 01/06/2011, 10:10 AM

Originally Posted by harleyleeds

Of course I dont care what you think of me I got the feeling from reading several of the posts that many had an almost snobby notion about their support of their local team and no affiliation twoards an english one, and that they felt that to watch english football on tv was taboo. I was trying to understand the mentality here. Your explanation was good but I was curious as to why you felt the need to say "why i care" and now Im wondering would you not class me as a LOI fan because I live here and support an english team as well . Again Im just curious to understand mindset thats all . I contribute about 5-800 euro to Sligo rovers each year , not alot I appreciate but all helps so does my non attendance disqualify me (I dont go to Elland road either)? Still I am only curious as I said to understand more the thought process of the younger fans . Thanks again.

From those that I know/came across, most LOI fans have some Gra for clubs outside Ireland - usually England or Scotland and increasingly Spain (rarer examples of support for other leagues also about).I think the problem is those "fans" that never visit any game, talk about "their" teamas we and tend to slagoff/belittle the LOI at every oppurtunity.
Persoanlly think the LOI slagging is primarily a defence thing to justify why a (so called) football fan does not bother going to, em, football. Again its a personal opinion but have no problem with fans having an interest in EPL, La Liga etc but just dont get how a football fan can have no interest in their own national League

**Macy** · 01/06/2011, 10:16 AM

Originally Posted by TiocfaidhArmani

See when people use the term 'bogball' or 'stick fighting' all the while moaning about showing disrespect to our national league, you really make yourself look silly and a bit of a hypocrite.

And just to say maybe why it gets coverage is because it's actually popular, the LOI isn't - so lose the chip on your shoulder. I find the LOI is usually a turn-off for a lot of people. The attitude stinks.

I prefer "glass spreaders" myself.

**marinobohs** · 01/06/2011, 11:07 AM

Originally Posted by TiocfaidhArmani

See when people use the term 'bogball' or 'stick fighting' all the while moaning about showing disrespect to our national league, you really make yourself look silly and a bit of a hypocrite.

And just to say maybe why it gets coverage is because it's actually popular, the LOI isn't - so lose the chip on your shoulder. I find the LOI is usually a turn-off for a lot of people. The attitude stinks.

Presuming the above is not a wind up ( a pretty big presumption) when LOI "bans" another sport, opposes grants for other sport(s), threatens young people wishing to participate in other sports and sends officials around public parks to"check" on people playing other sports, bans other sports from LOI grounds, legally challenges a club getting Govt funding just because it is not "their" code (despite general good of the community) then, and only then should we accept that our "attitude stinks".

Feel free to get back to me when that happens

**bullit** · 03/06/2011, 3:56 AM

Originally Posted by TiocfaidhArmani

See when people use the term 'bogball' or 'stick fighting' all the while moaning about showing disrespect to our national league, you really make yourself look silly and a bit of a hypocrite.

And just to say maybe why it gets coverage is because it's actually popular, the LOI isn't - so lose the chip on your shoulder. I find the LOI is usually a turn-off for a lot of people. The attitude stinks.

See,best thing about this site is that we can look at your previous posts,and i hereby hang you as a Caltic fan LOL that has a hang-up with the Ireland/plastic set-up. Long time running this pic but i think we finally have our man :

Chucky our law

**BonnieShels** · 03/06/2011, 10:53 AM

Was asked today down by the copier by the now infamous teuwl (see Annoying Monday morning conversations) what will I do with myself now that the league season is over...
Grr...

He also said "ah sure you have that Ireland match on Saturday"

Lord oh lord.

**Dunny** · 03/06/2011, 3:43 PM

The barstoolers seem to be attracted to you Bonnie!

**Straightstory** · 03/06/2011, 4:45 PM

Originally Posted by marinobohs

Presuming the above is not a wind up ( a pretty big presumption) when LOI "bans" another sport, opposes grants for other sport(s), threatens young people wishing to participate in other sports and sends officials around public parks to"check" on people playing other sports, bans other sports from LOI grounds, legally challenges a club getting Govt funding just because it is not "their" code (despite general good of the community) then, and only then should we accept that our "attitude stinks".

Feel free to get back to me when that happens

Excellent post. I think I love you!

**BonnieShels** · 04/06/2011, 9:17 PM

Originally Posted by Dunny

The barstoolers seem to be attracted to you Bonnie!

Just think it bothers me more than most.

**jebus** · 04/06/2011, 11:05 PM

My favourite wind-up to use in real life is when wearing my French jersey to a pub when theres a game like Man Utd vs Liverpool on

twice now I have been asked why the hell I would wear that jersey when I'm Irish. I say its because I support France for my National team, when asked why i would do that I say that its because they play better football than Ireland. Queue a round of guffaws until I ask why they are supporting United/Liverpool over Bohs/Pats etc. to which the intelligent ones realise where I'm going with this, the dumb ones press on regardless

my all time favourite encounter with a barstooler saw the conversation go like this:

him: who do you support?
me: Limerick
him: who do you really support though?
me: Limerick
him *becoming more animated*: who do you support in england though?!
me: sheffield wednesday i suppose
him *getting agitated*: but who do you support in the premier league????!
me: I don't know
him: you must follow someone!
me: I guess it'd be Arsenal I'd look out for most so
him *looking delighted*: Arsenal! Ha you haven't won anything in ages! united are well better than them!

I genuinely facepalmed whilst he did his dance of United vs Arsenal joy

**TiocfaidhArmani** · 10/06/2011, 6:52 PM

Originally Posted by Dunny

Wrong forum buddy. I think Hoganstand is thataway ---> http://www.hoganstand.com/forum/forumpage.aspx

I'm on that forum also, you see you can like different sports. I just choose not to have the ignorance of some on here. The GAA rule about foreign sports went exactly 40 years ago. Get with the times people - the GAA, thankfully, has.

**TiocfaidhArmani** · 10/06/2011, 6:56 PM

By the way my initial post had an error. I meant to write I find LOI fans a turn off, not the LOI itself. I support Shels, but I find the attitudes of LOI fans a severe turn-off. If someone wants to support them - let them. Why not concentrate on getting the league in order and stop giving people an excuse to ridicule us? I get it in the next from people who say you should only support a LOI team. It's so small minded, I'll support whom my heart tells me to.

BTW, to whomever called me a barstooler. I approx €650 for my Celtic season ticket. I'd imagine that' a lot more than you pay for yours.

**BonnieShels** · 10/06/2011, 7:47 PM

Really... have we resorted to jibes of "My season ticket is more expensive than your season ticket"? Jaysus!

**nigel-harps1954** · 10/06/2011, 8:16 PM

Keep your overpriced ******** so. I'll stick with my 100 quid season ticket with Harps and spend the extra 550 quid on something worthwhile.

**osarusan** · 11/06/2011, 1:41 AM

Originally Posted by TiocfaidhArmani

I support Shels, but I find the attitudes of LOI fans a severe turn-off.

Where have you encountered this attitude?

**bullit** · 11/06/2011, 2:36 AM

Originally Posted by TiocfaidhArmani

BTW, to whomever called me a barstooler. I approx �650 for my Celtic season ticket. I'd imagine that' a lot more than you pay for yours.

T'was me !!

Fcukin BARSTOLLER!!

SHELS fan me HOLE !!

**bennocelt** · 11/06/2011, 11:11 AM

Originally Posted by TiocfaidhArmani

By the way my initial post had an error. I meant to write I find LOI fans a turn off, not the LOI itself. I support Shels, but I find the attitudes of LOI fans a severe turn-off. If someone wants to support them - let them. Why not concentrate on getting the league in order and stop giving people an excuse to ridicule us? I get it in the next from people who say you should only support a LOI team. It's so small minded, I'll support whom my heart tells me to.

Nothing wrong with the league at all. Live football - what more does a football fan need?

**mypost** · 11/06/2011, 11:35 AM

Originally Posted by jebus

my all time favourite encounter with a barstooler saw the conversation go like this:

him: who do you support?
me: Limerick
him: who do you really support though?
me: Limerick
him *becoming more animated*: who do you support in england though?!
me: sheffield wednesday i suppose
him *getting agitated*: but who do you support in the premier league????!
me: I don't know
him: you must follow someone!
me: I guess it'd be Arsenal I'd look out for most so
him *looking delighted*: Arsenal! Ha you haven't won anything in ages! united are well better than them!

You should have stuck with Limerick.

I've always said that to understand them, you have to see it from their point of view. They see the LOI, how LOI club fans see domestic grass-roots football, featuring the likes of Cherry Orchard/Rockmount/Letterkenny Rovers, etc. Important yes, but generally, really not worth bothering with.

**BonnieShels** · 11/06/2011, 11:37 AM

Originally Posted by mypost

You should have stuck with Limerick.

I've always said that to understand them, you have to see it from their point of view. They see the LOI, how LOI club fans see domestic grass-roots football, featuring the likes of Cherry Orchard/Rockmount/Letterkenny Rovers, etc. Important yes, but generally, really not worth bothering with.

I don't even think they do that.
I think that we appreciate grass roots more than you think we do.

**peadar1987** · 11/06/2011, 11:49 AM

Originally Posted by bennocelt

Nothing wrong with the league at all. Live football - what more does a football fan need?

What if our distant ancestors had said "There's nothing wrong with hunter-gathering at all. Nuts and berries - what more does a caveman need?". We'd never be living in this fine age of superinjunctions, recreational drugs and internet porn!

**BonnieShels** · 11/06/2011, 12:45 PM

Easily humankind's finest creations...

I can't believe he used the word Shels in vain like that.
You can't be a fan of Shelbourne.

You support, love and hate them in equal measure. You cry when we miss out on promotion. You are always trepiditious in the last minute. You have a hatred for Limerick that doesn't need explaining.
None of these things are experiences of a fan. They are the experiences of lunatics who if they were "fans" could easily just walk into Tallaght stadium and be a fan of Rovers.[nothing against Shams just if you wanted to be a fan of any LOI club in Dublin Ye would be the obvious choice.]

I'm a fan of The National, The Foo Fighters, Nirvana, Daft Punk...

I'm a supporter of Shelbourne.