Quote3-1 karpaty.. game over.. sounded like they outclassed them all over the pitch.
2 v 1 to Karpaty now.
3-1 karpaty.. game over.. sounded like they outclassed them all over the pitch.
So finished 3-1 on the night. The Ukrainian league isn't ranked 8th in Europe for no reason. Both the sides who won tonight would be confident of getting to the EL Group stages at the very least.
Full time. Pats lost 3.1 Its a tough station this European lark. I was watching Stoke's game earlier and they made hard work of it and they pay big wages compared to our league.
Hearts of course will have a full-time fitness coach and a full-time physio not to include a state of the art fitness suite - and as pros they'll have more training time which includes free weight programs and resistance machine workouts. A lot of the Pat's lads would be part-time I'd say? I'd say part-timers training will be mainly tactical work and skill drills, etc.Originally Posted by dantheman
Plucky effort from the LOI, but ultimately lagging way behind the talented ball-playing Iceland league.
LOI 3 wins 3 draws - coeff 1.125
LOIceland 5 wins 1 draw - coeff 1.375
(including a hammering dished out to champion league specialists Zilina and an emphatic home win against Norway's Rosenburg.
Really - disaster? I'm not a Sligo fan but a bit of money made, improvements to the ground, european experience, maybe a few more fans gained, etc is fairly acceptable, and going out to a pretty decent Ukranian outfit is no shame.
Also as they are chasing the title with yourselves, Derry and Pat's would you not have wished the two sides progressed tonight instead of now being able to concentrate on the league?
Lets be fair, the tie was over after the first leg in Trondheim. I'll give you the Zilina home leg though.That was a good result against the odds. KR got a good hiding at home against Dinamo Tbilisi, while 2 of the wins were against Faroese opposition. Just giving the facts
Can't see it unless they got free drink for their 25 quid.
False hope is worse than no hope. Ask Sligo.
Who was the lad saying these Ukrainian teams were average enough?
I said that Poltava were beatable. By Sligo. They were. As for Pat's: I never thought they had a chance.
Would agree with this, there was a gap between Pats & their opponents.
Over the two legs, Sligo were more guilty of not taking chances, the gap was not huge.
Rovers were unlucky with getting Copenhagen in the draw, they are now the top seeds left on that side of the CL draw.
However looking at their opponents in the next round, I can't see where the win could come from. Austria Wien may be the pick:
Sevilla Esp
AS Roma Ita
Tottenham Hotspur Eng
PSV Eindhoven Ned
Atlético Madrid *3 Esp
Sporting CP Lisbon Por
Sporting Braga Por
Schalke 04 Ger
Dinamo Kiev @3 Ukr
Panathinaikos @3 Gre
Glasgow Rangers @3 Sco
Spartak Moscow Rus
Paris Saint-Germain Fra
AZ Alkmaar *3 Ned
Anderlecht Bel
Fulham FC * Eng
Celtic Sco
Besiktas Tur
Hapoel Tel-Aviv *3 Isr
Metalist Kharkiv Ukr
Standard Liège @3 Bel
Club Brugge *3 Bel
AEK Athens Gre
Sparta Praha *3 Cze
Steaua Bucuresti Rom
Athletic Bilbao Esp
Lazio Roma Ita
Dinamo Bucuresti *3 Rom
FC Salzburg ** Aut
Rosenborg BK @3 Nor
Lokomotiv Moscow Rus
PAOK Thessaloniki *3 Gre
Birmingham City Eng
Stoke City *3 Eng
Stade Rennais *3 Fra
Austria Wien ** Aut
Rapid Bucuresti Rom
Partizan Belgrade @3 Srb
Was hoping against hope 1 or more of the LOI teams would get through this week or at least run their opponents close but class seemed to tell in all 3 ties. Coefficient isn't going that well but really it doesn't tell the whole story with Sligo starting so late in the competition and Bohs not being in a good state.
29th in the coefficient a season or two ago was as high as we'll go for a while. Even if we slip down further it just means that 2 teams will start in the 1st round which give a much better opportunity of picking up points.We'll probably fluctuate in the 30's for the next few years.
Don't know the ins and outs of it but in terms of the club coefficient I'd imagine Shamrock Rovers and Pats should be seeded in the first couple of rounds if they are in Europe next season. Sligo can get through some of the early rounds too and Derry have a decent team and have usually represented the league well.
Also I don't think the draw this season was overly kind in the Europa considering our seeding. It'll be interesting to see who Shamrock Rovers get tomorrow.
Disappointing results but I have to agree with this. The Ukrainian league is 8th for a reason and produced the UEFA Cup winner in '09. It would have been great to have one other club in the draw for tomorrow but I guess other clubs have more of a progression to make.
https://foot.ie/forums/117-Kerry-FC
A Championship: 4 years - 8 first teams - 0 financially ruined. First Division '14: 7 first teams.
Opportunity lost for new clubs/regions to join the LoI family.
No surprises we lost, completely different level to us. We didn't play our best but we still wouldn't have bet them. Ref was terrible too.
Just hope we can get our minds right for league games now and not get a European hangover.
Imagine if Derry got to group stages, would cost ye a fortune having to pay players two seperate contracts in the 'off season'.At least they lost to a team trying to win, this time
Last edited by sligoman; 04/08/2011 at 9:57 PM.
Life without Rovers, it makes no sense...it's a heartache...nothing but a fools game. S.R.F.C.
We made Copenhagen work for their progression, and competed with them for most of the tie. Last man standing in Europe again.
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Very hard to see a winnable tie in that list. Got to be one of the toughest group of seeds at this stage I've seen. The bottom 3 seeds might offer Rovers a sniff. Beyond that I'm not sure. Rosenborg are not the side they once were.
From a financial side, maybe a team from Germany for tv rights. Otherwise, one of the English or Scottish sides could draw a big crowd (if home leg was moved) Sevilla, Roma or Lazio would also be a nice draw
If I was to pick a side to face, I'd go for Birmingham. In the Championship now. Season just about to start so maybe a good time to play them and spring a surprise. Would also draw some interest from the Irish "Football" public and hopefully on the box.
Puts St Pats achievement 2 years ago in getting past Samara (from the 6th ranked Russian league) in perspective!
Yeah - they have 5 teams in the playoff round - more than any other nation - I know its more due to losing champs league but still emphasises the quality of the league there.
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