LOI in Europe 2011

**SkStu** · 14/07/2011, 4:07 PM

Originally Posted by CuanaD

'big draw like Stoke'? I'd rate them similar to Hearts meself

They are a big draw in the context of who Sligo could get and how popular a pastime premiership barstooling is.

They are a bigger draw than Hearts. Easily.

**citybone** · 14/07/2011, 4:08 PM

Originally Posted by legendz

At 2-1 the tie is very much alive. I'll back Pat's to win the return leg 2-0.

Yes good result for them to progress but it does not help our coefficients at all. Maybe Bohs can do better later.
Im following the league ranked close to us like we want the away teams to win these ties http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague...ght/index.html
and
http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague...ght/index.html
Looking good so far in the second game 0-1 to the away team.

**DannyInvincible** · 14/07/2011, 4:09 PM

Originally Posted by SkStu

would Rovers want someone with a reasonable chance of progression like Glentoran or a big draw like Stoke? Or something in between like Hearts?

Bohs and Pats prospects pretty similar. Some decent trips, some decent teams plus some nightmare trips.

You'd have to prefer a draw with a more favourable chance of progression. When I hear of people talking about hoping for a "big draw" rather than getting into the next round, it just strikes me as a tad amateurish. Progression should be the primary objective if we're to get anywhere in the long-term.

**MeathDrog** · 14/07/2011, 4:11 PM

If I was a Sligo fan I'd be delighted if they got Hearts. Very winnable.

**legendz** · 14/07/2011, 4:18 PM

Originally Posted by citybone

Yes good result for them to progress but it does not help our coefficients at all. Maybe Bohs can do better later.
Im following the league ranked close to us like we want the away teams to win these ties http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague...ght/index.html
and
http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague...ght/index.html
Looking good so far in the second game 0-1 to the away team.

It doesn't help coefficient alright but as important as the are, if clubs get through to the next round, it'll sort itself out. As long as the league can get 2 or 3 clubs to the 3rd qualifying rounds of both competitions, it's good for the league.

**SkStu** · 14/07/2011, 4:18 PM

Originally Posted by DannyInvincible

You'd have to prefer a draw with a more favourable chance of progression. When I hear of people talking about hoping for a "big draw" rather than getting into the next round, it just strikes me as a tad amateurish. Progression should be the primary objective if we're to get anywhere in the long-term.

i honestly think it depends Danny. I think progression is always the objective but it needs to be balanced with realism for some clubs. For Bohs, progression, though definitely the objective, could be as much a curse as a blessing. A trip to Moldova would be a poor reward for beating Ljubljana. That said, there are no "big names" in our section so progression and the chance to get a chance to play a "big name" would be the objective. I think some Pats fans would think along the same lines.

For Sligo fans - they could draw Stoke or they could draw an unknown georgian team. To me, as a fan, thats a tough call.

**Cuyahoga** · 14/07/2011, 4:24 PM

Originally Posted by PartySaint

http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague...d=1650609.html

Here is all the groups, Sligo in a great group, Ours is gay again

Do you mean gay as in happy ?

**legendz** · 14/07/2011, 4:26 PM

Originally Posted by DannyInvincible

You'd have to prefer a draw with a more favourable chance of progression. When I hear of people talking about hoping for a "big draw" rather than getting into the next round, it just strikes me as a tad amateurish. Progression should be the primary objective if we're to get anywhere in the long-term.

I'd have to say it depends as well. Either drawing a big name or else getting a draw with a good chance of progression. Getting somewhere in between isn't that great. If a win is gotten from it it's good obviously but if it's a defeat, it won't live long in the memory.

**citybone** · 14/07/2011, 4:33 PM

Its wins and Draws which gains Coefficient points not progressing round although one does help the other

**citybone** · 14/07/2011, 5:06 PM

Originally Posted by citybone

Yes good result for them to progress but it does not help our coefficients at all. Maybe Bohs can do better later.
Im following the league ranked close to us like we want the away teams to win these ties http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague...ght/index.html
and
http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague...ght/index.html
Looking good so far in the second game 0-1 to the away team.

now 1-1 in the second game (not good)
In this game we want the home team to win
http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague...ght/index.html

**legendz** · 14/07/2011, 5:13 PM

Originally Posted by citybone

Its wins and Draws which gains Coefficient points not progressing round although one does help the other

I know, I'm aware of all that. While the coefficients are important, I don't think it forms much part of teamtalks etc. If clubs are getting through a few rounds, between all their wins, draws and losses, the coefficient will come together.

**bullit** · 14/07/2011, 5:17 PM

ELVIS is between the sticks for Olimpija later !! Let's hope that by the end of the match he will be "all shook up"

http://www.extratime.ie/fixtures/detail/17455/1/

**mypost** · 14/07/2011, 5:39 PM

Originally Posted by Graemerz

Airtiricity sides have done well for the simple reason you are mid-season when Europe kicks off. if you reverted back to winter football you may see a change and not for the better.

It's a reason, it's not the only one. It's also a question of attitude. Our players are not on holiday when they're playing in Europe, the clubs value European games and take them very seriously. That's not the case with NI clubs, most see the games as a pre-season pis-up, and they simply refuse to change season, no matter what the benefits are.

**shellyriver** · 14/07/2011, 5:53 PM

Originally Posted by DannyInvincible

You'd have to prefer a draw with a more favourable chance of progression. When I hear of people talking about hoping for a "big draw" rather than getting into the next round, it just strikes me as a tad amateurish. Progression should be the primary objective if we're to get anywhere in the long-term.

As a Bit-a-Red, fan, Personally, even before I knew of sub-group, a game with Hearts was the one I wanted. Delighted to be in same grouping.

Having said that I wouldn't mind a game with Glentoran. Easy access to North and good chance of progression -- and a bit of bite re fans.

There's always the second round for a big name. Equally playing Stoke would be great, but a nice trip to Cyprus would be delightful! Spoilt for choice really depending on what your having yourself.

Hopefully, all the LOI teams will progress, great for the league.

**DannyInvincible** · 14/07/2011, 5:58 PM

Originally Posted by mypost

It's a reason, it's not the only one. It's also a question of attitude. Our players are not on holiday when they're playing in Europe, the clubs value European games and take them very seriously. That's not the case with NI clubs, most see the games as a pre-season pis-up, and they simply refuse to change season, no matter what the benefits are.

The video here sums up the differences in approach: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/nort...nd/8129118.stm