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    The Italian referred to Cudicini's crossbar not PAOK.

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    Carlo Cudicini was called upon to make three fine saves at the death and Vladimir Ivic rattled the Italians' bar in stoppage time amid a white-hot atmosphere in Greece

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    Yeah, but that should be Italian's. They'd gotten the apostrophe wrong. And it genuinely did confuse me at first, and it made the eff up funnier.

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    True dat.

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    Her scarf is broken.
    She has a scarf? Oh yeah she does.

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    It was a strange game last night, I don't think Rovers had really touched the ball before Kazan opened the scoring and they looked completely shell-shocked at that stage. They then started to get a foothold in the game, playing patient football and frustrating Kazan. For about 20 minutes Rovers looked the more likely to score without creating too many clear chances. Then there was that typical slip in concentration and they gave away the penalty, the save was a massive boost and there seemed to be real belief that they could get the equaliser.

    Second half Rovers came flying out and had an early chance, then got caught with a sucker punch, maybe a little sloppy getting the ball clear again but a stunning finish. Again Rovers responded well and created some openings before Finn's great headed but the third following immediately after was a killer blow. Then came the penalty, the substitutions before the kick was taken was very odd and added to the pressure, there must be only about a 10% penalty success rate into that goal, it's bizarre. I thought Rovers move to 4-4-2 was going to result in Kazan getting 6 or 7 because it resulted in huge amounts of space in the middle, but Rovers adjusted the tactics, going direct to Kilduff and the Kazan defence looked a mess dealing with it. Kazan had great flashes and a few individuals that were a big step up, but a lot of their players were average enough too, I'm not sure how they would have reacted if Rovers had scored first as they looked very flustered in defence at times.

    Overall I though Rovers probably deserved a goal but Kazan showed the extra class that they're going to face at this level. 3-1 would have been a fairer reflection on the game, hopefully they'll learn from this and go on to pick up a few points in the group.
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    A licence to print money at 4/6 last night.
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    Just a little side issue that might interest Sligo fans. MON watched dvd's of Kazan and had a prepared accordingly. On the night they changed to a totally different formation. 4-2-4
    with the wingers pushed onto our full backs nearly as extra forwards. Where do you reckon they seen that little trick? IMO and im always right it was watching us v you on the Friday previous when you ran us ragged more or less.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hoops1 View Post
    Just a little side issue that might interest Sligo fans. MON watched dvd's of Kazan and had a prepared accordingly. On the night they changed to a totally different formation. 4-2-4
    with the wingers pushed onto our full backs nearly as extra forwards. Where do you reckon they seen that little trick? IMO and im always right it was watching us v you on the Friday previous when you ran us ragged more or less.
    Interesting observation alright Hoops1. Should MON not have been able to change his formation with ease so, considering the amount of times we have played ye this season?

    People talk about the gulf in standards between LOI players and European teams at this level, which is fair enough. Less talked about is the gulf between managers at this level. LOI managers seem less able (or aren't able) to change formations under pressure I find.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hoops1 View Post
    Just a little side issue that might interest Sligo fans. MON watched dvd's of Kazan and had a prepared accordingly. On the night they changed to a totally different formation. 4-2-4
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    We went for more of a 4-2-1-2-1 last Friday. Hard to know when Danny and Ndo are in the team, really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BonnieShels View Post
    Her scarf is broken.
    She has a scarf??

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    poster, was it not more a 4-1-4-1 or 4-1-3-1-1 or a 4-3-2-1. Daft I know, but an argument could be made for each.
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    Quote Originally Posted by redobit View Post
    poster, was it not more a 4-1-4-1 or 4-1-3-1-1 or a 4-3-2-1. Daft I know, but an argument could be made for each.
    From the start I thought we had 4(back 4), 2 (Danny and Richie), 1 (Russell), 2 (Greene,Joey) 1 (Doyle)

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    its how you look at the midfield really. Its 4 at the back with 1 (danny) playing in front of them imo. Between there and the 1 up front is anyones guess/ opinion. So a 4-1-(whatever you think)-1

    Isint football class all the same.
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    Didn't see whole game last night but what I saw I thought shams did well. After conceeding so early it would have easy for the players heads to drop and get tonked, but they stuck at it and in open play did well. Result was never in doubt as Kazan were different class (as they should be given the resources they have) but it was a pity O'Donnell did not score the pen to give shams a goal (even if it was only consolation). Three decent goals by the visitors showed the class they have.
    It is a great achievement for shams to have reached this stage and anything from here will be a major bonus. Bigger/Richer clubs than shams have found the "step up" to this level to be a sharp learning curve.

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    Maube a stupid question but do the results really matter at this stage? The main part was just getting to the group stages, If Pats were there instead of Rovers I wouldn't be too worried about losing as long as it wasn't an embarrassing result which last night wasn't

    They will be up against teams from England Russia and Greece, The LOI is miles behind them, The money those teams can spend is just no comparable to LOI standards, If they come out of Europe with all 2 or 3-0 loses thats not bad

    Sure we can't all beat Russian opponents
    Here on a technicality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PartySaint View Post
    Maube a stupid question but do the results really matter at this stage?
    E60k a draw, E140k a win.

    I think in the bigger picture though, performing well and learning/improving over the campaign is important. They want to progress enough to get into the groups in next year's UEFA Cup campaign too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    E60k a draw, E140k a win.
    Added bonus but by no means a failure if they don't manage to get a draw or a win

    For the record I think out in Russia and Greece both games Rovers could be on the end of a thumping
    Here on a technicality.

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    Well, results do matter, but yeah, they could lose all six games without it being a complete failure. Though if they do get those thumpings, it could do more harm than good among the barstool brigade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PartySaint View Post
    Added bonus but by no means a failure if they don't manage to get a draw or a win

    For the record I think out in Russia and Greece both games Rovers could be on the end of a thumping
    Spurs are playing their reserve side, I think their best hope of a point could be against them.

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    It may be a coincidence to rival the injuries players pick up around international games, but the preview on extratime hints that it was a big injury list rather than a deliberate policy that saw Spurs field a weak side. Gallas, Dawson, Huddlestone, Lennon, van der Vaart and others all injured.

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