Weekend Latest (w/e 22 April)

**Fester** · 22/04/2011, 8:50 PM

Monaghan 2 v 1 Wexford FT

**GalwayRed** · 22/04/2011, 8:57 PM

FT
Rovers 3-1 UCD
Harps 1-2 Longford

**Longfordian** · 22/04/2011, 9:01 PM

Good win for Town again. 5 wins from 8 now.

**harpstilidie** · 22/04/2011, 9:38 PM

Originally Posted by Longfordian

Good win for Town again. 5 wins from 8 now.

Fully deserved as well. Well done.

Harps are terrible.

**atfconline** · 22/04/2011, 9:43 PM

First 3 wins in a row for us since 2000/01.

Two of the teams we beat back then aren't even senior clubs anymore!

**Longfordian** · 22/04/2011, 9:52 PM

Yeah, *grits teeth*, fair play to Athlone surprisingly good form so far.

**Ezeikial** · 22/04/2011, 9:58 PM

I can't remember when I last saw a Premier team as poor as Drogheda tonight. The fact that we stumbled to a win with a goal in the last 10 minutes doesn't say much for our performance either.

I suppose the 3 points matters far more then the performance, but those lads looked jaded tonight. Maybe no surprise with 5 players out injured for the last few weeks and the small squad giving no rotation for tired bodies.

With 3 more games coming in the space of 8 days I expect that Foster will field many A/Youth players against Monaghan on Monday.

**Longfordian** · 22/04/2011, 10:04 PM

Drogheda have Dave Freeman and John Lester who were deemed not good enough for our squad plus a few more that trialled with us but weren't taken on. They were always going to struggle badly with that level of player but at least they're not spending money they don't have.

**placid casual** · 22/04/2011, 10:53 PM

Ronan Finn is the best midfielder in the league.
UCD denied what looked, to my ageing eyes to be a stonewall peno in the first half.
Once we scored the pressure was off and we ran out comfortable winners. UCD need to find another kilduff or they will struggle this season.

And Bray above Sligo in the league. go seagulls!

**hoops1** · 22/04/2011, 10:55 PM

Sligo mid table

**MariborKev** · 22/04/2011, 11:29 PM

Pats well worth a point in my view.

Scrapped hard, made it difficult for us and they may have rediscovered the very best of Daryl Kavanagh.

**nigel-harps1954** · 22/04/2011, 11:41 PM

Possibly the worst managed Harps side in history. Plenty of experience and plenty of ability about them but lacking any sort of direction. Horrible times to be a Harps fan

**dfx-** · 22/04/2011, 11:53 PM

Good results from Sligo and Derry from a Rovers perspective.

I thought UCD were very impressive, 2 good chances just after halftime and a clear handball in the first half, but if Rovers can continue this idea of crossing the ball in and having players get on the end of it, they might go far.

**A N Mouse** · 23/04/2011, 12:09 AM

Originally Posted by MariborKev

Pats well worth a point in my view.

Scrapped hard, made it difficult for us and they may have rediscovered the very best of Daryl Kavanagh.

Fair fecks to the pats fans that travelled. Did deserve their point.

That said can't help but feel that however poor derry were the ref robbed us. Last week had some rover fans looking for refs to be consistent across the league. I'd settle for them being consistent in one game. Hancock was poor, but consistent when sligo visited. Winter made more - big - good decisons than bad, when shams came. And on tv hancock actually done well, overall.

Tomney really reinforced the whole biased ref thing. If he had of been in any way consistent Kavanagh should not have been on the pitch by full time, nevermind to win the penalty. The one time in the whole game he looked to play advantage was a foul on the half way line with the ball dropping on the edge of the derry box with a chance for pat's to go 2-1 up. Minutes later - among others - he calls play back with derry on a break away, and doesn't even book Kavanagh for the most cynical foul of the night.

The only thing McGlynn could have been booked for was talking back, yet Pat's, with Kavanagh again the main culprit, were at it constantly. And there were a few dubious obstruction - surely if the balls travelling you're entitled to dummy it? - awards to Pat's around the halfway line. Yet the two most blatent of the night, in and around the pat's area were denied. (Actually that's probably being generous, being wrestled to the ground after meging the man is slightly more than obstruction)

**PartySaint** · 23/04/2011, 12:55 AM

Originally Posted by A N Mouse

Fair fecks to the pats fans that travelled. Did deserve their point.

That said can't help but feel that however poor derry were the ref robbed us. Last week had some rover fans looking for refs to be consistent across the league. I'd settle for them being consistent in one game. Hancock was poor, but consistent when sligo visited. Winter made more - big - good decisons than bad, when shams came. And on tv hancock actually done well, overall.

Tomney really reinforced the whole biased ref thing. If he had of been in any way consistent Kavanagh should not have been on the pitch by full time, nevermind to win the penalty. The one time in the whole game he looked to play advantage was a foul on the half way line with the ball dropping on the edge of the derry box with a chance for pat's to go 2-1 up. Minutes later - among others - he calls play back with derry on a break away, and doesn't even book Kavanagh for the most cynical foul of the night.

The only thing McGlynn could have been booked for was talking back, yet Pat's, with Kavanagh again the main culprit, were at it constantly. And there were a few dubious obstruction - surely if the balls travelling you're entitled to dummy it? - awards to Pat's around the halfway line. Yet the two most blatent of the night, in and around the pat's area were denied. (Actually that's probably being generous, being wrestled to the ground after meging the man is slightly more than obstruction)

Yeah and don't forget the stonewall peno we didn't get for the handball in the second half, Delighted with the point and think we deserved it, As MariborKev said Daryl kavanagh was on top form tonight, hopefully he see's more game time now

**TenaciousDee** · 23/04/2011, 11:01 AM

Originally Posted by A N Mouse

Fair fecks to the pats fans that travelled. Did deserve their point.

That said can't help but feel that however poor derry were the ref robbed us. Last week had some rover fans looking for refs to be consistent across the league. I'd settle for them being consistent in one game. Hancock was poor, but consistent when sligo visited. Winter made more - big - good decisons than bad, when shams came. And on tv hancock actually done well, overall.

Tomney really reinforced the whole biased ref thing. If he had of been in any way consistent Kavanagh should not have been on the pitch by full time, nevermind to win the penalty. The one time in the whole game he looked to play advantage was a foul on the half way line with the ball dropping on the edge of the derry box with a chance for pat's to go 2-1 up. Minutes later - among others - he calls play back with derry on a break away, and doesn't even book Kavanagh for the most cynical foul of the night.

The only thing McGlynn could have been booked for was talking back, yet Pat's, with Kavanagh again the main culprit, were at it constantly. And there were a few dubious obstruction - surely if the balls travelling you're entitled to dummy it? - awards to Pat's around the halfway line. Yet the two most blatent of the night, in and around the pat's area were denied. (Actually that's probably being generous, being wrestled to the ground after meging the man is slightly more than obstruction)

There was no bias against us last night, as mentioned before he was equally as **** to both teams and was inconsistent in his decisions. Take two incidents in the first half. Greacen and a Pat's player raise their feet to win the ball in a 50-50 with Greacen winning the ball, getting caught by the player in the process. In my opinion the yellow was a bit harsh, it is dangerous play however like I said 50-50 and he is entitled to challenge for the ball. Later in the half Gareth McGlynn chests the ball out of the Pats box, defender lunges in with studs showing, catches McGlynn in the side. No free-kick no yellow card despite this in my opinion being worse than the first incident.

On Pat's performance I think we were lucky not to be at least two down by the 30 minute mark. Three times in the first half Pat's got behind our defence easily and had it not been for a Doherty save and the fact Pat's are toothless we could have been badly hurt. There was little pressure from Midfield however going forward our central midfielders contributed well including Higgins who was involved in some decent moves. Their penalty was stonewall and Eddie was caught for pace in the build up to the foul.

**SwanVsDalton** · 23/04/2011, 11:20 AM

Originally Posted by TenaciousDee

There was no bias against us last night, as mentioned before he was equally as **** to both teams and was inconsistent in his decisions. Take two incidents in the first half. Greacen and a Pat's player raise their feet to win the ball in a 50-50 with Greacen winning the ball, getting caught by the player in the process. In my opinion the yellow was a bit harsh, it is dangerous play however like I said 50-50 and he is entitled to challenge for the ball. Later in the half Gareth McGlynn chests the ball out of the Pats box, defender lunges in with studs showing, catches McGlynn in the side. No free-kick no yellow card despite this in my opinion being worse than the first incident.

On Pat's performance I think we were lucky not to be at least two down by the 30 minute mark. Three times in the first half Pat's got behind our defence easily and had it not been for a Doherty save and the fact Pat's are toothless we could have been badly hurt. There was little pressure from Midfield however going forward our central midfielders contributed well including Higgins who was involved in some decent moves. Their penalty was stonewall and Eddie was caught for pace in the build up to the foul.

I agree - thought the ref was dreadful, but we wern't the only side to suffer from him. Was miles away from the peno, but they could've had one given in the first (not to mention their handball shout). Tomney did have a very bizarre last 10 minutes though and didn't give City a thing (when Bermingham wrestled McDaid to the ground on the near wing after getting beaten for instance, that was ridiculous) but it wasn't overly unfair overall. The ref managed to book five players in a match which didn't have one bad challenge in it, or even much bite in general.

Pats were decent value for it, and Shane McEleney will be having nightmares about Daryl Kavenagh for months to come. Might have been different if Zayed had of buried that sitter just before half-time though - good save from Rogers, but he shouldn't have been given the chance.

**Dodge** · 23/04/2011, 11:28 AM

Originally Posted by A N Mouse

That said can't help but feel that however poor derry were the ref robbed us.

There's absolutely no way the ref robbed you. Pats were convinced they should've had a penalty in the first half (your centre half on the ground blocked a Doyle close range effort) and we could've had one immediately after your goal (although i thought it'd have been a harsh one)

Our midfield was poor and at times Derry looked super going forward but apart from the last 25 minutes of first half (when Rogers made a couple of great saves) and the 5 minutes or so after your goal, I thought we were comfortable enough and created more chances (or half chances anyway).

Honestly can't see how you think Kavanagh should've been sent off. Don't remember him doing anything to even be booked tbh. On top of that he was the best player on the park.

Good to have Derry back too

**Candystripe** · 23/04/2011, 12:07 PM

Originally Posted by Dodge

There's absolutely no way the ref robbed you. Pats were convinced they should've had a penalty in the first half (your centre half on the ground blocked a Doyle close range effort) and we could've had one immediately after your goal (although i thought it'd have been a harsh one)

Our midfield was poor and at times Derry looked super going forward but apart from the last 25 minutes of first half (when Rogers made a couple of great saves) and the 5 minutes or so after your goal, I thought we were comfortable enough and created more chances (or half chances anyway).

Honestly can't see how you think Kavanagh should've been sent off. Don't remember him doing anything to even be booked tbh. On top of that he was the best player on the park.

Good to have Derry back too

Was defo a handball, but more hand to ball (another senseless debate on MNS?) lolYou's also had a call before that for one as well.

when Mc Daid was wrestled to the ground and nothing was given was mindboggling though but the ref was just pure ****e anyway as was the linesman in front of the Glentoran stand.

Kavanagh was mouthing off time and time again and he was making silly little fouls the whole game but was getting away with it so no reason for him not too as he wasn't being punished for it.

An excellent crowd up from Pats and well behaved and sang throughout the game although I couldn't hear them I could see them

Oh and Dodge, it's good to be back

**born2bwild** · 23/04/2011, 12:26 PM

Originally Posted by placid casual

Ronan Finn is the best midfielder in the league.
UCD denied what looked, to my ageing eyes to be a stonewall peno in the first half.
Once we scored the pressure was off and we ran out comfortable winners. UCD need to find another kilduff or they will struggle this season.

And Bray above Sligo in the league. go seagulls!

Finn is a class above everyone else. I get the feeling that M O'Neill didn't realise how good he was before he bought him. Dundalk fans proabably saw last year up close how good he was...his goals up there, first in July, second in October were superb. Enjoy him while he's still in the league.