Ireland ranked 14th in World

[Plastic Paddy]

Duncan it is hard to believe that you are as big an idiot as you appear, but I guess it is so. You have nothing to offer this board.

You're out of line there Mick. There are plenty who behave far, far worse on this board than Duncan (see the first line here for an example), and I don't see you calling them to order. Just because he chooses to play devil's advocate doesn't make him an idiot. And, given the debate he can stir up, I'd say he has plenty to offer this board. More than can be said for some who post here.

PP

[1MickCollins]

You're out of line there Mick. There are plenty who behave far, far worse on this board than Duncan (see the first line here for an example), and I don't see you calling them to order. Just because he chooses to play devil's advocate doesn't make him an idiot. And, given the debate he can stir up, I'd say he has plenty to offer this board. More than can be said for some who post here.

PP

I wasn't suggesting Duncan was abusive but rather that his opinions are just such a waste of time. To him S.Korea is a top 10 team in 2002 while Holland is not even in the top 20? My granny has more sense.

IMHO there is no easy way to rank teams, but you could group them into levels based on performance over 4 years.

Very often in group qualifiers one bad result can be fatal.

[Plastic Paddy]

I wasn't suggesting Duncan was abusive but rather that his opinions are just such a waste of time. To him S.Korea is a top 10 team in 2002 while Holland is not even in the top 20? My granny has more sense.

I know you weren't labelling him as such, Mick. As far as I see it, Duncan's only fishing, and plenty of people are falling for the hook. Considering some of the abuse he gets on here from certain quarters (you know who you are ) he does well to stick around and not be abusive in retaliation.

IMHO there is no easy way to rank teams, but you could group them into levels based on performance over 4 years.

Very often in group qualifiers one bad result can be fatal.

I'm inclined to agree with you. However, when it comes down to it there's only one way in which these things can be decided, and that's on the field of play in tournaments such as the one we're *ahem* not playing in right now... *sob*

PP

[lopez]

Sorry but Duncan needs some back up here. Talking a bit of the auld cojones himself perhaps - especially the bit that Greece deserved to win his group - but then don't we all? - my own coup de grace was suggesting RMK singlehandedly helped Ireland come second in the 1998 WC group stages. Anyway he stuck up for me on ourweeminds.com and I'm sticking up for him here (in hope of a beer perhaps). Definitely no eejit!

[brine2]

Brian's boys got ONE point from two games. The other two matches were played under d'previous manager. (as he is now known)

Holland failed to get into the playoffs for 2002, and were still fifth in the World, which also shows how ridiculous the system is.

FIFA Rankings: Abolish them now!

[lopez]

You might as well wait for Spain to win a major championship..... Good luck in the group decider,Weds.....

I'll have a drink off him before then. BTW, my team's group decider will hopefully be a day later unless they haven't been slung out by then...

You're out of line there Mick. There are plenty who behave far, far worse on this board than Duncan (see the first line here for an example)...

I thought you were bringing back your old amigo Siete Braincells, but cripes this bloke is even more intellectually challenged (perhaps 'Seis braincells'?)

[Plastic Paddy]

I thought you were bringing back your old amigo Siete Braincells, but cripes this bloke is even more intellectually challenged (perhaps 'Seis braincells'?)

I had a sneaking feeling that this "gmani" character that's joined us recently was ESS reinvented, but the as-yet lack of antediluvian opinion from him/her/it makes me think otherwise.

How's things yourself anyway? Sorry to have missed you at the Jamaica game, although I see you got to meet Liam 18 and his extended family.

PP

[lopez]

And mine too, Dav.

Paddy, don't know if I got to meet Liam as I was strugling with some Jerk Chi-kahn at the time he was on the platform, while before the game me and Pat O'B were getting a lesson in Jamaican patois from a lad from Ballyfermot via Kensal Rise. Hopefully you take it easy tonight and not smirk too much to the missus when Henry get's his hat-trick.

[Plastic Paddy]

Hopefully you take it easy tonight and not smirk too much to the missus when Henry get's his hat-trick.

I think I must have been bad in a former life, since she's invited eight Tans around to watch the match in our living room and I get to play Irish servant-boy (oh, how history repeats... ) by keeping them all plied with beer and snacks. Hmm, maybe it's a good thing that they've scored, otherwise they'd probably defenestrate all the furniture before starting a fight with my cat...

PP

[gmani]

Come on now Dav, be fair. While we're off beating the likes of Holland, our friends are playing all-comers on islands across the Caribbean to get the result. Where next for our intrepid heroes? Watch out Western Samoa...

PP

yeh while we can beat the likes of Holland and draw with the likes of Brazil but we can't beat the likes of jamaica WAKE UP!!!

[Plastic Paddy]

yeh while we can beat the likes of Holland and draw with the likes of Brazil but we can't beat the likes of jamaica WAKE UP!!!

Hello? Did you see any of the Unity Cup games a couple of weeks back?

You are ElSieteSecretos and I claim my €5...

PP

[gmani]

Hello? Did you see any of the Unity Cup games a couple of weeks back?

You are ElSieteSecretos and I claim my €5...

PP

actually i did.... and the ableness to put the ball in the back of the net is the whole point of soccer.....

[Plastic Paddy]

actually i did.... and the ableness to put the ball in the back of the net is the whole point of soccer.....

Well then, you'll remember that we actually beat Jamaica. Idiot.

PP

[gmani]

sorry i meant Nigeria ((TYPO))

people make mistakes...

the point is they didnt perform against Nigeria

[sylvo]

PP i think yer rapping with an old mate there.

[lopez]

sorry i meant Nigeria ((TYPO))

people make mistakes...

the point is they didnt perform against Nigeria

The more you read it, the more he is Siete Braincells, without the mock latino spelling mistakes. Fiver it is - BTW take it's a bit of a damp squib at Chez PP tonight. ...

[eirebhoy]

TYPO

I'm suprised you know what the above word means since you seem to be so knew to the PC world.

[Duncan Gardner]

Morning campers.

You'll all be delighted to hear I backed Bulgaria to win the trophy,shows what I know

That Rudy Nistelrooy took his goal a bit tastily...

[eirebhoy]

You'll all be delighted to hear I backed Bulgaria to win the trophy,shows what I know

I don't think Bulgaria have a chance of winning it but that 5-0 scoreline could easily have been 1-1. Sweden didn't play too well, Bulgaria gave up after the 3rd goal.

[finlma]

Morning campers.

You'll all be delighted to hear I backed Bulgaria to win the trophy,shows what I know

That Rudy Nistelrooy took his goal a bit tastily...

I got Baros to be the leading scorer at 50/1. He's come into 12s already.

My mate has a Larsson/Sweden double at 500/1, not a bad bet.