League of Ireland Supporters Guide - Help Needed

**Dodge** · 13/04/2011, 9:32 AM

Originally Posted by SkStu

Seriously, there is no law against two books having a similar name. Relax.

Of course there's no law against it, but if you want your book to be marketed properly, distinguishing it might help

**marinobohs** · 13/04/2011, 10:40 AM

Originally Posted by Dodge

Of course there's no law against it, but if you want your book to be marketed properly, distinguishing it might help

Would there not be copyright issues around using a book title previously used ?

**A N Mouse** · 13/04/2011, 11:47 AM

"No Who Do You Really Support? And other stupid questions - A Guide to Following Irish Football"

**MagicMon** · 13/04/2011, 12:31 PM

Originally Posted by Dodge

Of course there's no law against it, but if you want your book to be marketed properly, distinguishing it might help

Yeah, you want it so that its the top hit on a Google or Amazon search, not having to trawl through a dozen books about American football.

**SkStu** · 13/04/2011, 2:24 PM

Originally Posted by Dodge

Of course there's no law against it, but if you want your book to be marketed properly, distinguishing it might help

They are in two, totally independent, markets. The chances of confusion or the American book adversely impacting the marketing of the Irish book are not great.

Originally Posted by marinobohs

Would there not be copyright issues around using a book title previously used ?

No.

Originally Posted by MagicMon

Yeah, you want it so that its the top hit on a Google or Amazon search, not having to trawl through a dozen books about American football.

Thats not how Amazon works - if you entered it into Amazon it would return two results as there are only, hypothetically speaking, 2 books with a similar name.

(And today I realised that i will argue about anything.)

**John83** · 13/04/2011, 2:34 PM

Originally Posted by SkStu

(And today I realised that i will argue about anything.)

Welcome to the internet.

**Dodge** · 13/04/2011, 2:40 PM

Originally Posted by SkStu

They are in two, totally independent, markets. The chances of confusion or the American book adversely impacting the marketing of the Irish book are not great

Go on then, I'll continue...

Even if I concede that they're two different markets (despite my interest in both) and even if I concede that its a great title (which it is), its still pretty crappy to use a title thats already been used in a succesful book

Originally Posted by A N Mouse

"No Who Do You Really Support? And other stupid questions - A Guide to Following Irish Football"

I love this BTW

**marinobohs** · 13/04/2011, 2:40 PM

Originally Posted by SkStu

No.

(And today I realised that i will argue about anything.)

Interesting that no copyright issues arise. In that case I would go for "The Bible" as title

. Short, catchy and already has a big potential market. Might get confused with that other book about another (less important) religion but just a chance you have to take.

THE BIBLE - a guide to League of Ireland Football

**SkStu** · 13/04/2011, 2:47 PM

Originally Posted by marinobohs

Interesting that no copyright issues arise. In that case I would go for "The Bible" as title

. Short, catchy and already has a big potential market. Might get confused with that other book about another (less important) religion but just a chance you have to take.

THE BIBLE - a guide to League of Ireland Football

"7th Day Adventists and other Weirdo's - Welcome to the League of Ireland"

On another note, my frustration with PineappleStu is borne out of the fact that i have no copyright on the name Stu and its variants and as such feel that my ability to promote myself and market my name has been impinged....

**marinobohs** · 13/04/2011, 3:03 PM

Originally Posted by SkStu

"7th Day Adventists and other Weirdo's - Welcome to the League of Ireland"

On another note, my frustration with PineappleStu is borne out of the fact that i have no copyright on the name Stu and its variants and as such feel that my ability to promote myself and market my name has been impinged....

I reckon he only took the name to wind you up and that it is clear provocation

. I think the matter should be settled in the traditional manner with both protagonists, armed with a set of Bohs annual accounts (year optional) canting - "reasons I hate Pat Fenlon"* The winner will be last man standing (in the LOI tradition - every club has one) and will have sole ownership (in Foot.ie world) of the name Stu and all variations thereof. Let the games begin

* Game open to the two people named only (although late applications may be accepted from other Stu's - until fudge runs out).

**Schumi** · 13/04/2011, 5:55 PM

Originally Posted by SkStu

"7th Day Adventists and other Weirdo's - Welcome to the League of Ireland"

Is this a reference to mypost wanting games on Sundays?

**writerbk1969** · 13/04/2011, 6:26 PM

There is no copyright infringement, though I understand the point being made about the previous book. Basically the publisher has the final say, but because the book is a condensed history of the 21 clubs - anything from 12-18 pages, a fans survey (which Im happy to quiz people on here if so wished), and I've travelled to all the grounds - well 4 left - and included ground info, nearest pub, price of curry chip, programme and fanzine where a club has one etc, I want the book to have a fun title , though its understandable if a more practical title is opted for.
Providing I cut down my word count there will also be brief look back to clubs like Drumcondra, EMFA and Kildare County etc , so I'm keen to get the right title. Distrubrution isnt a problem as you'll be able to get it in a recognised book store chain.

**MagicMon** · 13/04/2011, 7:37 PM

Originally Posted by SkStu

Thats not how Amazon works - if you entered it into Amazon it would return two results as there are only, hypothetically speaking, 2 books with a similar name.

I just typed it into Amazon under books and got 86 results. I remember trying to find Gods vs Mortals before Christmas and it was a struggle!

Re: the name, I'd go for something connected to going to the ground, "And look for the floodlights" was a good one

**pineapple stu** · 14/04/2011, 8:50 AM

Originally Posted by marinobohs

* Game open to the two people named only (although late applications may be accepted from other Stu's - until fudge runs out).

I invite Aberdonian Stu on to my team. Get another Bohs Stu and we can have a two-man tag wrestling match to decide this.

I'll sit back and have a pint while Aberdonian Stu mashes you.

**marinobohs** · 14/04/2011, 10:11 AM

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

I invite Aberdonian Stu on to my team. Get another Bohs Stu and we can have a two-man tag wrestling match to decide this.

I'll sit back and have a pint while Aberdonian Stu mashes you.

Now, thats fighting talk Over to you SKSTU

. Will be happy to arrange the contest for halftime at Dalymount - perhaps Bohs V UCD game ! (tickets available through TICKETMASTER, Fantasy Island and all other usual outlets).

**sligo23** · 14/04/2011, 10:50 AM

Who is Tom anyway? - A supporters guide to the LOI
or
Where is Tom's lump gone, and other LOI mysteries - A supporters guide to the LOI

**writerbk1969** · 14/04/2011, 11:07 AM

Think someone had mentioned " Just look for the floodlights " or "Just Follow The floodlights" here, both of which are good as well.

**FrOsTy** · 14/04/2011, 11:14 AM

From motorways to dirt tracks - A supporters guide to the LOI

The agony and extacy - A supporters guide to the LOI

Booze, Burgers and Ball - A supporters guide to the LOI

"REFEREE!!"- A supporters guide to the LOI

Chippertalk - A supporters guide to the LOI

"Take him off" - A supporters guide to the LOI

**Eminence Grise** · 14/04/2011, 3:16 PM

Originally Posted by Dodge

Of course there's no law against it, but if you want your book to be marketed properly, distinguishing it might help

Indeed. I remember well when an ex brought home a sex book called How to Hug.

I hadn't the heart to point out it was Volume 9 of the Oxford English Dictionary.

**historynut** · 14/04/2011, 5:02 PM

Originally Posted by writerbk1969

There is no copyright infringement, though I understand the point being made about the previous book. Basically the publisher has the final say, but because the book is a condensed history of the 21 clubs - anything from 12-18 pages, a fans survey (which Im happy to quiz people on here if so wished), and I've travelled to all the grounds - well 4 left - and included ground info, nearest pub, price of curry chip, programme and fanzine where a club has one etc, I want the book to have a fun title , though its understandable if a more practical title is opted for.
Providing I cut down my word count there will also be brief look back to clubs like Drumcondra, EMFA and Kildare County etc , so I'm keen to get the right title. Distrubrution isnt a problem as you'll be able to get it in a recognised book store chain.

What about Frankfort, Pioneers, Olympia, Ymca, Dolphin, Jacobs, Brookyn, Brideville, Reds Utd, Thurles, Newcastlewest, Cork Celtic, Cork Hibs and various other Cork clubs.