Markets Field Renovations??

**Lim till i die** · 14/11/2013, 11:35 PM

Dont mind the capacity its an issue but not the main one.

Look at the plans just look at them!!

It boggles the mind that you could build a new build thats only a category 2, that has just over a thousand covered seats for home fans (and by the looks of things those of you in the first five rows will get wet), thats inferior to Tallaght, Terryland and Turners Cross.

Uncovered five step terracing?? Its like something a local gaa club would get built.

Small time with a capital small.

Someone summed it up earlier today, when its finished itll be the fourth best ground in munster to watch football in.

**nigel-harps1954** · 14/11/2013, 11:48 PM

I do agree, the plans looks very, very amateur. I'd be absolutely p!ssed off too if Harps plans suddenly changed to something like that, after such fantastic initial plans.

They reek of GAA club mentality, and shows a huge lack of ambition from the LEDP.

If you're going to build a stadium, do it properly. Two stands either side of the field, both of 1,500 capacity should be ambition.
At very least, keep the existing 900 seat plan for the stand in place with a 1,500 stand on the other side of the field. Terracing either side of the current grandstand is the final piece of the jigsaw. No need for anything else. Complicating things and sticking in stupid small stands will look awful.

**NeverFeltBetter** · 15/11/2013, 1:01 AM

That's sort of it. The mentality the plans demonstrate. It could be a lot better, and not just for Limerick FC (if primarily).

And I don't mean 8'000 seater of course, just something that you could put on a par with Turners Cross or some of the stadiums in Dublin. I think Limerick City deserves an association football ground that stands out.

**Charlie Darwin** · 15/11/2013, 1:03 AM

Isn't it up to Limerick FC to convince LEDP not to downgrade the plans?

**NeverFeltBetter** · 15/11/2013, 1:12 AM

Few others will be doing it. I hope that the people at the top level of the club will try some convincing, though they can't do that publicly of course. If the LEDP want to maybe outline in some fashion why the plans have been downgraded exactly, what budgetary constraints they are choosing to operate under, I think it would be helpful.

There is, of course, an element of respect needed for all of this, considering the circumstances of how Limerick FC are getting this ground, but that doesn't mean criticism of the plans should be curtailed if they are valid.

**Lim till i die** · 15/11/2013, 1:15 AM

Its up to Limerick FC to teach Keith Wood basic common sense??

Im not being defensive there Im just genuinely baffled. Like how do you even go about trying to reason with anyone who puts that plan together in the year 2013 and thinks "that'll do the finest".

The club wrote a letter of support according to the ceo in tonights Leader.

There better be a bigger picture none of us are seeing!!

**Charlie Darwin** · 15/11/2013, 1:21 AM

I haven't read the application to be honest - I couldn't get it to work but I'll take your word it's a joke. My point is what NeverFeltBetter said - nobody else is going to convince LEDP, so it's Lims or nobody.

Am I not right in saying that LEDP's budget was decided by the donation made by JP McManus, in which case the only reason for downsizing is that they hadn't done their sums correctly to begin with?

**Lim till i die** · 15/11/2013, 1:21 AM

I hope that the If the LEDP want to maybe outline in some fashion why the plans have been downgraded exactly, what budgetary constraints they are choosing to operate under, I think it would be helpful.

I dont get this side of it either.

If the issue is the budget forget the two 300 seats stands and stepping the rest of the ground just slap up an Athlone Town stand on the popular side and tidy the place!!

Common sense surely??

Plan just looks like a masive brainfart

**NeverFeltBetter** · 15/11/2013, 9:46 AM

Originally Posted by Lim till i die

The club wrote a letter of support according to the ceo in tonights Leader.

Well balls.

**Pablo** · 15/11/2013, 2:31 PM

Will this actually be ready for Kick Off?

**NeverFeltBetter** · 15/11/2013, 2:45 PM

I doubt it, maybe mid-season.

**bluewhitearmy** · 15/11/2013, 2:53 PM

There is no indication whatsoever when it will even start let alone finish.

**kingpin4** · 15/11/2013, 5:03 PM

I haven't seen the new plans because the links wouldn't work for me... Can anyone give a quick summary?
It will be disappointing if it is as bad as people are saying, but is it possible that its being done in phases or is it just going to be the one development and that's that, no more room for expansion?
I've been to Turners Cross hundreds of times, and while it has its own problems, there's usually a fairly decent atmosphere and it's comfortable enough to watch a game too.

**fieldofmarkets** · 15/11/2013, 6:53 PM

Similar to what ltid said, don't waste money and effort on mini terraces and stands. They'll be in the way later anyway if there is any success and proper facilities need to be built.

**NeverFeltBetter** · 17/11/2013, 6:23 PM

http://www.ledp.ie/featured/opportun...november-20th/

If anyone is interested, not sure how much of a Q&A this would be, especially to those outside the immediate area.

**redron** · 18/11/2013, 4:27 PM

Originally Posted by redron

Here's the link to the Planning Application:
http://www.limerickcity.ie/ePlan/Fil...141&LASiteID=0

Looks like the large drawings aren't scanned properly though!

The link to the plugin on the Council website leads to a non-existent page.
Here's a link to some DjVu plugins and viewers, if you want to view the files:
http://djvu.org/resources/
I used the first one.

Someone should probably tell them in the planning office that the large drawings aren't scanned properly!

**redron** · 18/11/2013, 4:33 PM

Originally Posted by NeverFeltBetter

http://www.ledp.ie/featured/opportun...november-20th/

If anyone is interested, not sure how much of a Q&A this would be, especially to those outside the immediate area.

The description of the event suggests to me that it's not actually a public meeting, where a presentation is made to an assembly with a questions and answers session. Rather, it seems to be that you will be able to view the drawings on display and then questions can be put on a one-to-one basis.

**redron** · 23/11/2013, 5:45 PM

Originally Posted by redron

The description of the event suggests to me that it's not actually a public meeting, where a presentation is made to an assembly with a questions and answers session. Rather, it seems to be that you will be able to view the drawings on display and then questions can be put on a one-to-one basis.

Just to say, thankfully my fears were baseless and there was a group discussion at the meeting.
But I'm no happier about the plans than I was beforehand. There were no major objections raised by any of the local residents present.

**gael353** · 23/11/2013, 7:46 PM

Hi lads the supporters club will meet on Monday coming in the rooms overhead the still house on Thomas st at 8pm. All are invited for a chat, and to view the plans for the markets field. General discussion and so on. All welcome

**redron** · 29/11/2013, 1:22 PM

Originally Posted by redron

The link to the plugin on the Council website leads to a non-existent page.
Here's a link to some DjVu plugins and viewers, if you want to view the files:
http://djvu.org/resources/
I used the first one.

Someone should probably tell them in the planning office that the large drawings aren't scanned properly!

The large drawings have been re-scanned and are online since this morning (so now you can actually view the full drawings):
http://www.limerickcity.ie/ePlan/Fil...141&LASiteID=0

Final date for submissions about the planning application is 9 december.