Markets Field Renovations??

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  1. bluewhitearmy's Avatar

    bluewhitearmy said:
    Quote Originally Posted by thomas72 View Post



    Can't see jackman getting a premier licence with one small entrance to the ground

    Which is quite clearly why they say this bit.

    working with the FAI to insure it would get a license with upgrades.
     
  2. KevB76 said:
    Quote Originally Posted by Jofspring View Post
    Talk in today's local from Pat O Sullivan that Jackman is plan B for next season and they are working with the FAI to insure it would get a license with upgrades.

    That kind of talk worries me a bit. It will be great to have a plan b but last thing we want is a handy fall back and excuse for not going into the markets field as soon as we can.
    Do really think Pat O'Sullivan is the sort of person to look for handy fall backs and excuses?
    Last edited by KevB76; 09/10/2012 at 9:39 PM.
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  3. Jofspring's Avatar

    Jofspring said:
    Quote Originally Posted by KevB76 View Post
    Do really think Pat O'Sullivan is the sort of person to look for handy fall backs and excuses?
    Nope but that doesn't mean it wouldn't give other people involved in the project and excuse or a handy fall back.

    Lets be honest though it's hard to be optimistic about being in there for march when it started as we could be in their for the start of the 2012 season and our last game in Jackman has been played. Then no point in rushing as we are in the first division so lets continue in jackman and we could be in there for the last few games of this season. Now it's, it should be ready for the start of 2013 season if there is no objections but if not we can try get Jackman ready as a plan B. It was said about 2 months ago not to worry the planning was going in in a couple of weeks. A few months later and we are hearing the same line.

    It's grand for most the regulars as we are going to be patient and trust what the club are doing but from the outside looking in it doesn't look too great and almost seems like a decline towards using Jackman again.

    Hopefully work can just commence within the ground on work that doesn't need planning permission and we can see something physical happening to give everyone better hope of the move.
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  4. KevB76 said:
    Quote Originally Posted by Jofspring View Post
    Nope but that doesn't mean it wouldn't give other people involved in the project and excuse or a handy fall back.
    These other people (presumably the LEDP, the VEC, and whoever else has some input or involvement) I would guess are more interested in doing their own thing to their own timescale and dont feel the need for any excuses or fall backs - if they cared about our timescale, I'm sure the project would be much further along already. At the end of the day we will be no more than a tenant in their ground, so they're the ones who are setting the pace of developments there and we just have to trust that when its ready, whenever that may be, that its worth the wait.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jofspring View Post
    Lets be honest though it's hard to be optimistic about being in there for march when it started as we could be in their for the start of the 2012 season and our last game in Jackman has been played. Then no point in rushing as we are in the first division so lets continue in jackman and we could be in there for the last few games of this season. Now it's, it should be ready for the start of 2013 season if there is no objections but if not we can try get Jackman ready as a plan B. It was said about 2 months ago not to worry the planning was going in in a couple of weeks. A few months later and we are hearing the same line.

    It's grand for most the regulars as we are going to be patient and trust what the club are doing but from the outside looking in it doesn't look too great and almost seems like a decline towards using Jackman again.
    As I said above, and I'm surprised more people on here dont seem to realise this, the club dont own the ground and arent running the show, Ive no doubt Pat o'Sullivan is doing his utmost to keep things progressing as quickly as possible but its not up to him. In the meantime it may seem that Limerick FC take all the flack and are seen as the ones breaking promises, but the mindset that see the club that way are almost a complete irrelevance by now in my opinion, the blue revolution is already way too strong to be affected by these types
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  5. Jofspring's Avatar

    Jofspring said:
    Most people know it's ultimately out of their hands but that doesn't take away from what the general public have read in the media over the last year about when it would be completed.

    Fingers crossed all goes to plan.
     
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    dutchie said:
    Quote Originally Posted by bluewhitearmy View Post
    Awful.
    Would it not be an option to have a few Saturdays after Christmas where the club can look for Volunteers to help out at the Markets field,whether paiinting,roofing,plastering etc.Im sure a lot of people would give their free time with the Premier league looming!!!!!!!
    Fail to prepare,prepare to fail--R.keane.
     
  7. NeverFeltBetter's Avatar

    NeverFeltBetter said:
    Sure, they could make a few Jobbridge internships out of it!
    Author of Never Felt Better (History, Film Reviews).
     
  8. da bishop said:
    whether its still in the ..upgraded jacks or in the MF ..i like many of the fans will trust the present chairman to guide us in the right direction.
     
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    gael353 said:
    I think an upgraded jacks could be the real deal for the next 6 months to a year till the MF is ready. Second entrence by the flats. Wexford style agricultural stand or two. TV towers far side and behind one goals, extend the dressing rooms. Now its suddenly better then tolka, Dalymount, Carlisle, Drogheda......
     
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    peadar1987 said:
    Quote Originally Posted by gael353 View Post
    I think an upgraded jacks could be the real deal for the next 6 months to a year till the MF is ready. Second entrence by the flats. Wexford style agricultural stand or two. TV towers far side and behind one goals, extend the dressing rooms. Now its suddenly better then tolka, Dalymount, Carlisle, Drogheda......
    The first three are stadia, but it would take at least three entrances before Jackman Park has better facilities than the entire town of Drogheda
     
  11. El-Pietro's Avatar

    El-Pietro said:
    Staying at Jackman park would be a missed opportunity, and opening a new entrance and a temp stand doesn't make it better than any of those stadia. you have been in the first division too long. The only ground jackman Park is better than is Fahys field.
     
  12. bluewhitearmy's Avatar

    bluewhitearmy said:
    Quote Originally Posted by El-Pietro View Post
    Staying at Jackman park would be a missed opportunity, and opening a new entrance and a temp stand doesn't make it better than any of those stadia. you have been in the first division too long. The only ground jackman Park is better than is Fahys field.
    All the Carlisle is is a Temp stand hardly anything special.
     
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    Lim till i die said:
    Quote Originally Posted by El-Pietro View Post
    Staying at Jackman park would be a missed opportunity, and opening a new entrance and a temp stand doesn't make it better than any of those stadia. you have been in the first division too long. The only ground jackman Park is better than is Fahys field.
    You're a Cork fan travelling to an Away game.

    Explain how a done up Jackman with your own entrance, toilet block, covered stand blah blah, would be any worse.
     
  14. thomas72 said:
    Just watched silgo and pats and with limerick hopefully moving into the markets next season the stadium silgo built up there is very very impressive copy silgo on how a club is run could Do Alot worse.
     
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    NeverFeltBetter said:
    Quote Originally Posted by bluewhitearmy View Post
    All the Carlisle is is a Temp stand hardly anything special.
    I was really impressed by Carlisle when I was there this year. If Jackman converted the embankment to similar concrete terraces, similar covered stands on the far side, it would be fantastic imo.

    Terrace idea is a bit of a dream though, I'll admit.
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    hotspur said:
    Quote Originally Posted by NeverFeltBetter View Post
    I was really impressed by Carlisle when I was there this year. If Jackman converted the embankment to similar concrete terraces, similar covered stands on the far side, it would be fantastic imo.

    Terrace idea is a bit of a dream though, I'll admit.
    Whose gonna put up all this money to upgrade Jackman??i doubt very much the LDMC will,the dressings rooms are a disgrace for even junior football not to mind loi,and as for the toilets,enough said,can't see limerick investing money there when they'll be gone out of it eventually.
     
  17. El-Pietro's Avatar

    El-Pietro said:
    Quote Originally Posted by Lim till i die View Post
    You're a Cork fan travelling to an Away game.

    Explain how a done up Jackman with your own entrance, toilet block, covered stand blah blah, would be any worse.
    I'm saying it wouldn't be better than those named above. I've been to every current LOI ground, imo Jackman is the second worst stadium in the league right now. Third if we include Drom. I don't see where ye plan on putting in a covered stand. On the hill? next to the Limerick District Methadone Clinic?
     
  18. El-Pietro's Avatar

    El-Pietro said:
    Quote Originally Posted by thomas72 View Post
    Just watched silgo and pats and with limerick hopefully moving into the markets next season the stadium silgo built up there is very very impressive copy silgo on how a club is run could Do Alot worse.
    trust me on this, you don't actually want to copy how Sligo is run. the rest of the league hates the people running that place, out to screw anyone they can, no time for anyone but themselves.
     
  19. nigel-harps1954's Avatar

    nigel-harps1954 said:
    Quote Originally Posted by El-Pietro View Post
    trust me on this, you don't actually want to copy how Sligo is run. the rest of the league hates the people running that place, out to screw anyone they can, no time for anyone but themselves.
    Spot on, Sligo fans don't see it. Heads well and truely up in the sky at the minute, but they will come crashing back to earth quicker than Felix Baumgartner in the next year or two.
    They've built a nice stand, ground looks good, good team, but they've done absolutely nothing for the future of the club. Their under 19 team is woefully overlooked, no youth setup, no future planning. It's all about 'Win the league, get in the champions league'.

    It's sickeningly like Shelbourne all over again.

    What Limerick need to do, is get the right structures in place, get a good youth setup going, get good community involvement and community programmes, get the Markets Field up and running, have a plan in place for progression, not go absolutely gung-ho at the league straight away.

    There is great potential for a very strong club in Limerick, as long as things are done right.
     
  20. bluewhitearmy's Avatar

    bluewhitearmy said:
    Quote Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954 View Post
    Spot on, Sligo fans don't see it. Heads well and truely up in the sky at the minute, but they will come crashing back to earth quicker than Felix Baumgartner in the next year or two.
    They've built a nice stand, ground looks good, good team, but they've done absolutely nothing for the future of the club. Their under 19 team is woefully overlooked, no youth setup, no future planning. It's all about 'Win the league, get in the champions league'.

    It's sickeningly like Shelbourne all over again.

    What Limerick need to do, is get the right structures in place, get a good youth setup going, get good community involvement and community programmes, get the Markets Field up and running, have a plan in place for progression, not go absolutely gung-ho at the league straight away.

    There is great potential for a very strong club in Limerick, as long as things are done right.

    From the things on that we have everything except the ground right now and that will come. Pat O Sullivan has come out and said we wont be going mad to win the league so hopefully we stick to that.