Jason McAteer vs Stephen Cluxton

[Jinxy]

Well the Australians reap what they sow with respect to the level of worship they afford their sports stars.
The AFL and NRL players in particular have a serious track record of assaults (physical and sexual), drug-taking etc.
It's a bit of a meathead culture.

[bennocelt]

To be honest, the Australians were quite proud of their lads, and despite some people complaining, winning was more important to them than the methods employed. The general perception was that we were a pack of whingers.
!

Thats exactly what I found too chatting to Aussies. They think the Irish were moaning all the time and weak - which they were and are.
I have played gah heads off the park in a football field, fellas that played for their county and everything and were fit, just couldnt hack it on a football field. Wud like to see Cluxton do that to Mr Keane

[Jinxy]

You're my hero bennocelt.

[geysir]

Despite the meandering meaningless comparisons between GAA amateurs and the heavy physical AFL professionals, by all accounts a heel clipping, immature McAteer was floored by a clean Cluxton strike and McAteer was left whining about it on a sports radio interview.

[razor]

immature McAteer was floored by a clean Cluxton strike

Were the police called?

[paul_oshea]

Despite the meandering meaningless comparisons between GAA amateurs and the heavy physical AFL professionals, by all accounts a heel clipping, immature McAteer was floored by a clean Cluxton strike and McAteer was left whining about it on a sports radio interview.

Geysir you are sounding like one of those AFL meatheads there.

Its alright when we do it, oh but begorrah don't do it to us.

I'm somewhere between bennocelt and Geysir.

[bennocelt]

You're my hero bennocelt.

ha ha thanks! Just making the point that Gah heads always seem to think that football is such an easy game to play and that they can master it in no time - not!

[Jinxy]

lol
Do people still say 'not'?

[bennocelt]

LoL - well call me old fashioned

[SwanVsDalton]

lol
Do people still say 'not'?

Don't have a cow man.

[Dodge]

Cluxton has been one of the best goalkeepers in the GAA for a good few years. He might not have made it at soccer but we are talking professional/amateur here

We're talking regular sized goals and the kids sized ones the GAA use. He tried, and failed, to make it with a number of semi pro LOI teams too.

[paul_oshea]

cluxton isn't that good. I'm not being biased here but the best keeper in the GAA today and has been for a while is Geoffrey Claffey. Cluxton has big kick outs and plays for Dublin and that gets forgotten.

Though claffey never went for trials with any Soccer clubs either so that might be it.

[Jinxy]

Well Brendan Murphy and Gary Rogers were both excellent soccer goalkeepers that came from the GAA.

[Dodge]

Well Brendan Murphy and Gary Rogers were both excellent soccer goalkeepers that came from the GAA.

And plenty of keepers didn't play GAA at all....

The point wasn't that a GAA keeper can't be a good football keeper. The point was that being a good GAA keeper doesn't necessarily make you a good football keeper (as shown by Cluxton not being able to cut it in the bigger goals)

[SwanVsDalton]

Well they ain't 'kid sized' when your stood between them in fairness, but I take your point. Regardless of goal size, the skill set is at a higher level in football. There's no real concept of a GAA keeper 'dominating their area' or organising the defence in the same way football keepers must. Plus I'd argue mistakes are forgiven far easier in GAA.

And it's always bothered me how being a big guy with a big kick-out is sometimes enough to be a keeper at GAA inter-county level - take Barry Gillis of Derry, a half-forward for his club. Mediocre (at best) shot-stopper but played at county-level for about four or five years.

[TiocfaidhArmani]

ha ha thanks! Just making the point that Gah heads always seem to think that football is such an easy game to play and that they can master it in no time - not!

That's just false.

[Uncle_Joe]

I believe it. I saw McAteer play for the Liverpool Legends back in March of 2009 at Turner's Cross. He ran the show and took it very seriously, the rest of the lads were just out for a stroll and he was putting in tackles left and right.

I saw him at the Ireland V England Legends game in Fulham a few years back. He took that game very seriously and while other people were having a giggle he was storming up and down the wing and scored a cracking goal. One of the best games I´ve seen him play for Ireland even if he was probably 10 years younger than most of the players on the pitch.

[OMTY]

Well Brendan Murphy and Gary Rogers were both excellent soccer goalkeepers that came from the GAA.

I don't rate Cluxton that highly as a keeper. Shane Supple is the Dubs sub keeper this year isn't he?

Gary Connaughton of Westmeath played for Athlone Town, although I don't know if he had much success with them.

[paul_oshea]

Well they ain't 'kid sized' when your stood between them in fairness, but I take your point. Regardless of goal size, the skill set is at a higher level in football. There's no real concept of a GAA keeper 'dominating their area' or organising the defence in the same way football keepers must. Plus I'd argue mistakes are forgiven far easier in GAA.

You never saw Shane Curran playing then.....

[paul_oshea]

I saw him at the Ireland V England Legends game in Fulham a few years back. He took that game very seriously and while other people were having a giggle he was storming up and down the wing and scored a cracking goal. One of the best games I´ve seen him play for Ireland even if he was probably 10 years younger than most of the players on the pitch.

Ya he was probably about 10 years younger than the average age that night. BUt ya he definitely was taking it seriouslly. We met quinn afterwards having pints with john salako and someone else.