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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuttgart88 View Post
    The surreal atmosphere will surely resemble the reserve team atmosphere your players are used to
    On the plus side, 9 of our starting 11 are playing regularly in the Premiership/Championship/SPL - the exceptions being Jonny Evans and young Gorman.
    The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
    But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
    Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
    And this is what we sang...

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    Extremely odd comments from Worthlesston in relation to the team selection for Serbia. Suggests all is not well in the dressing room.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gather round View Post
    I think EG's going to Flanders actually. Most of us missed out on Serbia because we hadn't booked travel etc. when the game was declared closed.
    Sadly Belgian trip is now cancelled.

    Oh well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gather round View Post
    Aren't we all?
    Touché.

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    Flanders' loss is our gain

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    Watching Barton now against Portugal U21s (he is a football player, remember?) and he looks like an awkward, lanky lump.

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    Not worth the fuss, you reckon?

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    No idea on this showing but he hasn't really shown any great attributes beyond his ability to foul people. He doesn't seem to be playing regular football so I guess that's a mitigating circumstance.

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    I think he's doing okay. One of "our" ()better players tbh - him and Towell in the middle.

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    tbf it's a big step up in level from the NI team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ifk101 View Post
    I think he's doing okay. One of "our" ()better players tbh - him and Towell in the middle.
    I'd go along with that.
    "We lost because we didn't win"- Ronaldo

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    That should have been a sending off. Terrible tackle.

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    No answers to the BK eligibility issue??

    Surely worth a few threads of it own and a national holiday for all the countries concerned??

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    Quote Originally Posted by ifk101 View Post
    Extremely odd comments from Worthlesston in relation to the team selection for Serbia. Suggests all is not well in the dressing room.
    Worthington is clueless. Never has a plan B.

    The sooner we get rid the better.

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    I wouldn't be too harsh on Worthlesston based purely on the Serbia game.

    Serbia were not necessarily the better team on the night but it was quite apparent they had the better players. Serbia were able to make substitutions that changed the game - Tosic (sp?) ran the show in the second half. Worthlesston doesn't have options like that available to him - a couple of injuries and NI are exposed as out of their depth at this level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ifk101 View Post
    Serbia were not necessarily the better team on the night but it was quite apparent they had the better players
    Their better players totally dominated the second half, so I think they were probably the better team on the night.

    Serbia were able to make substitutions that changed the game - Tosic (sp?) ran the show in the second half
    Tosic started the game. Ninkovic was the second-half sub man of the match. We should really have man-marked him with Baird.

    Worthlesston doesn't have options like that available to him - a couple of injuries and NI are exposed as out of their depth at this level
    Most of our bench players are either kids or past their best, it's true.

    But...they lost one game by one goal, after beating Slovenia and drawing with Italy. Hardly out of depth, unless you think the Serbs were similarly so being thrashed at home by Estonia and barely scraping a draw with the Slovenes.

    It's fair to blame him for, variously

    a) starting a schoolboy who should be in the U-19 squad at best

    b) persisting with the clearly unfit and uninterested Healy

    c) only allowing Mccourtadona five minutes at the end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gather round View Post
    Their better players totally dominated the second half, so I think they were probably the better team on the night.
    NI put in a strong collective, team effort on the night throughout the game. Serbia's team didn't play in total harmony for 90 minutes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gather round View Post
    Tosic started the game. Ninkovic was the second-half sub man of the match. We should really have man-marked him with Baird.
    They were better in every position during the second half. As you say yourself, they totally dominated. Questionable what benefit man-marking one player would have made.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gather round View Post
    Most of our bench players are either kids or past their best, it's true.

    But...they lost one game by one goal, after beating Slovenia and drawing with Italy. Hardly out of depth, unless you think the Serbs were similarly so being thrashed at home by Estonia and barely scraping a draw with the Slovenes.

    It's fair to blame him for, variously

    a) starting a schoolboy who should be in the U-19 squad at best

    b) persisting with the clearly unfit and uninterested Healy

    c) only allowing Mccourtadona five minutes at the end.
    You lost by one goal but Serbia's second half performance was a class above what NI could respond with. NI were out of their depth.

    The game is a team sport. If there isn't a collective effort, the most talented team won't always win the game.

    I'm sure Healy is interested in playing for NI. Silly to suggest otherwise. Whether he is fit or not is another issue but it's apparent however he can't play as a lone striker. Feeney was the other option on the bench but he is a League One player i.e. there isn't any real strength or depth available to Worthlesston.

    I can agree that the decision to play a school boy in a competitive game is questionable. In hindsight to how Serbia played in the first half, McCourt could have caused havoc if played ahead of Gorman. But as Worthlesston says himself, the kids listen to what their told.

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    The thing that we are most irked about is that it was clear the Serbs had changed tactics second half and that those tactics were clearly trumping ours. Any idiot could have seen that we needed to make a change early second half as their goals were coming.

    Paddy McCourt is probably our most gifted player in terms of technical ability and should be starting every game in all honesty, but to just give him 5 minutes at the end is a joke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ifk101 View Post
    NI put in a strong collective, team effort on the night throughout the game
    Disagree. They sat back far too negatively in the second half, repeatedly gave the ball away and failed to support each other when we (rarely) had it.

    Questionable what benefit man-marking one player would have made
    With less time on the ball, he might not have set up two goals?

    You lost by one goal but Serbia's second half performance was a class above what NI could respond with. NI were out of their depth

    NI were poor. I understand your argument that the Serbs were likely to dominate once in harmony, regardless of how strong, or collective our less talented guys were; but it's contradicted by previous games in the series.

    The game is a team sport. If there isn't a collective effort, the most talented team won't always win the game
    Agreed.

    I'm sure Healy is interested in playing for NI. Silly to suggest otherwise
    Moving at walking pace, constantly arguing with the officials and picking up a pointless booking suggest otherwise. Why are you so sure? Do you ghost-write his column? Be honest, he isn't up to it any more and isn't prepared to make the extra effort to compensate for that.

    Whether he is fit or not is another issue
    Sorry, that should have said match-fit. He's barely played in club football since Euro 08, it's hardly a surprise.

    but it's apparent however he can't play as a lone striker. Feeney was the other option on the bench but he is a League One player i.e. there isn't any real strength or depth available to Worthlesston
    I recognise the lack of depth. Feeney obviously lacks Healy's past record but at least moves his arse a bit more.

    If we lose to the Slovenes, it's time for a new coach and to promote some U-21 and fringe players. They just might get better, Sir David and Itsy-Bitsy won't.

    I can agree that the decision to play a school boy in a competitive game is questionable
    Not just questionable, crazy. He has never played professional footballer. He's an A-level student who goes to Wolves third team part-time.

    In hindsight to how Serbia played in the first half, McCourt could have caused havoc if played ahead of Gorman
    In hindsight- or even with foresight- you'd think that an international side would have been able to cope. I imagine they've seen Paddy's wonder-goals against Saint Mirren reserves and the like

    But as Worthlesston says himself, the kids listen to what their told
    Aye, a bit snide that. If he wants to slag off the older players, he should resign first.
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    Healy's done. He has been done for quite a while now. Spent far too long sitting in the reserves in the premier league collecting a wage and now he's useless.

    He should have taken a step down and moved to some team like Rangers after he left Fulham.

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