Originally Posted by Lim till i die
Having slept on it I'm not quite as down on the whole thing as I was last night for the following reasons: (i'm trying alright!!)
Looking at Cork last night, they're no great shakes at all, same problems as last year too, they are completely blunt. At times last night they had as much of the ball as they like and all they did with it was kick for the corners or lump it down Barry Ryans throat. If they are one of our main promotion rivals then we'll be there or therabouts in the long run, they will have nights where they struggle big time to break teams down.
If we have Stephen O'Flynn available last night we don't lose that game. One of their centre halfs was like Bambi and if O'Flynn was there it would have been a different dimension, more ball into feet and they panic, they panicked for the last 25 last night when all we were offering by way of attacking threat was Calla!! Also with Stephen in the centre you would have had Hynes on the right and he would have been a far bigger handful for Danny Murphy to deal with than Garbhan Coughlan was, which in turn would have offered a bit more protection for poor Brughall.
Eventhough Calla and McCarthy in general coped very well with Cummins I think Paddy was still a big loss last night for his leadership qualities. There was a few times last night when someone neede to have a calm word with the ref and it didn't happen. The ref was very slow to give cards for some pretty poor tackles from Cork players last night and there was no consistency. Hynes was booked for questioning a decision by the ref no more than three minutes after a Cork player got a stern talking to for trying to cleave John Frost in half. I'm not blaming the ref by ANY STRETCH for the defeat but it's something to bear in mind??
On the downside we created exactly nothing but it's hard to get any kind of rythm going when you're changing both your wingers and the midfield is being walked on (again! Altho I thought Judge played fairly well). Worrying to see Corks domination in the centre, Greg O'Halloran can still do a job in fairness to him, twas kinda summed up last night by us having to bring on Darren Coleman for O'Leary when we were chasing the game eventhough Coleman is basically a bit of a tough nut who wouldn't really be up to the standard of the two lads that started. Was Yellow around last night?? I'm not going to give out about Broughall, it's been done, he's only 19 and it's not his fault he's being picked, it's not like he's not trying. To give Scully some credit (we can only wait and see how the team selection pans out) having had a good look at Broughall in pre season he went out and signed Corey Tracy, you cant legislate for fellas kicking other fellas up into the air fifteen minutes into their debut!!
With Tolka looming in two weeks our next two home games on either side of it against Longford and Wexford are MUST WINS and Longford are fairly handy by all accounts this year. On the Shels game it looks ominous but it depends.
Ryan
Tracy
Purcell
McCarthy
Frost
Tracy
O'Leary
Judge
Hynes
Quinn
O'Flynn
Genuinely has a chance in Tolka imho, our record there is great and Shels will be nervous as it'll be their first (on paper) test of the season. Bring last nights team to Tolka and have them perform like that and you'll ship a hammering though........
Has sprained ankle was sitting in fornt of me in the stand.
This result is absolutely no surprise to anyone with half a brain. 2nd half was a little better from us in the middle where we were overrun in the 1st but overall Cork were first to the ball over and over again. We didnt know what to do when we had the ball going forward.
We beat Cork in Turners Cross last season, so maybe this is a good sign??
nothing inspiring about this display,a small bit learned regarding scullys squad maybe,what cork did or did not do is hardly relevent what is ,is that we barely created a decent chance all game bar judges effort late on.
Wouldnt agree with you about judge not a winger i watched him play on the wing he has alot of pace and a good cross, i am shocked with broughall he is no where near this standard, i know its abit early but is there any managers around for replacement.
Didnt know he had palyed there was teht with fairview?
He played there with limerick and fairview but i would prefer him wide hes very light for midfield, but he would be in my team every week, we dont look to be as strong as last year.
I wouldnt take hm out of the middle if we do we will have nothing at all in there...Dave O Leary has been walked on against Harps and Cork good player when he has space but has no strenght to back it up.
Would playing every week in a physical division help build his strength or should we just get rid now?
Not saying get rid at all. He has ben playing in that physical division since last season and has been getting bullied off teh ball since then.
Are we really in a position where we can play him every week just so he can build his strenght? He is weak in midfeild and so far being weak in midfield has cost us points against Harps and Cork and it will continue to happen unless something changes.
Build his strenght in training and get him to stop pulling out of tackles.
I think we need somebody physical beside David O'Leary. Opponenets need to know if they go in over the top then we have a Tony Meaney or Noel King that will go in twice as hard on their player.
We were victims of some very early strong physical challenges in Cork and Ballybofey. The referee let them go in all cases with warnings. We needed to retaliate with similiar challenges ourselves. You need to earn the right to play football. Even a certain club that we cannot mention has a Marquez and a Busquets for your Xavis and Iniestas.
Many referees don't like to book anyone early on and teams take advantage of that.
Noel King was booked nearly every time he played but rarely if ever sent off for us. However he allowed others to play football.
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