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    Quote Originally Posted by SwanVsDalton View Post
    Brian Kerr wants a Grealish call-up and says he's the best underage Irish attacking player since Duff and Keane
    Somewhere on Merseyside, Aiden McGeady is crying into his post-training penne.

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    I wonder what's up with Grealish now then. Will he be called up later? Has he gotten cold feet? Or does Martin simply not fancy him at the minute? And what was his father talking about then recently, as if something had been agreed with the management in relation to a senior call-up?

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    The only thing that annoys me about all this is that now that he's not going to be in these squads it means the stupid to-ing and fro-ing and the media circus will continue into March next year now and then of course... the game v the Tans in June.
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    tried to post this in the squad thread but seems to have got lost in the ether, but that journo Fallon really has to follow up on this. His credibility is on the line. It was really poor not to have cited any sources. His report was more or less endorsed by McDonnell in the Indo, so he should follow up on the Grealish omission too. Why were these questions asked during the squad announcement? Was it not a press conf?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OwenGoal View Post
    tried to post this in the squad thread but seems to have got lost in the ether
    Aye, why is the Scotland game thread locked?

    but that journo Fallon really has to follow up on this. His credibility is on the line. It was really poor not to have cited any sources. His report was more or less endorsed by McDonnell in the Indo, so he should follow up on the Grealish omission too. Why were these questions asked during the squad announcement? Was it not a press conf?
    Strange alright.

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    It's pretty simple really.

    Fallon talked to Jack's dad, who said Jack would make himself available for the USA friendly.
    Fallon ran with it, Jack's dad posted the article approvingly.
    Martin O'Neill said "oh really?" and decided just to stick with the players who are fully committed.

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    [QUOTE=DannyInvincible;1788029]Aye, why is the Scotland game thread locked?


    Er, have I broken the internet.

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    The spin that Fallon put on it was that Grealish would be making his senior debut against the US, as if he had some inside info from, not only Grealish's side, but from Martin O'Neill also. Grealish can't decide he'll be making his debut by simply making himself available. That's a decision only Martin O'Neill can make so long as Grealish first makes himself available. Fallon wrote as if he had some insight into Martin O'Neill's thoughts on it all and as if O'Neill was planning on handing Grealish his debut: http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...-30670984.html

    Quote Originally Posted by John Fallon
    MARTIN O'NEILL'S promising start to the European Championship qualifying campaign is poised for a boost by news of Jack Grealish's likely senior debut against the USA next month.

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    Grealish is not expected to figure in Ireland's next crunch Euro 2016 qualifier on November 14 in Scotland as O'Neill intends staying loyal to his squad that eked out a 1-1 draw away to the world champions on Tuesday. It is now most probable, however, that the 19-year-old will figure four days later at Lansdowne Road when the Americans visit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin View Post
    It's pretty simple really.

    Fallon talked to Jack's dad, who said Jack would make himself available for the USA friendly.
    Fallon ran with it, Jack's dad posted the article approvingly.
    Martin O'Neill said "oh really?" and decided just to stick with the players who are fully committed.
    But why didn't he quote the Da? Even unnamed; 'sources close to the player' etc. For a supposedly respected reporter he took a very big risk and it blew up on him.

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    Should have been capped v.Gib along with any other floating parties. End of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OwenGoal View Post
    But why didn't he quote the Da? Even unnamed; 'sources close to the player' etc. For a supposedly respected reporter he took a very big risk and it blew up on him.
    Well presumably the da didn't want to be named. 'Sources close to the player' is journalistic tourette's - there's no reason to put it in because everybody knows when there's no quotes that that's what it is.

    I take Danny's point that Fallon's article seems to indicate O'Neill had made his mind up, but he may just have got that impression from Grealish Sr. As far as I know, O'Neill isn't close to anybody in the media (in fact he's openly hostile) so there's never going to be any hints coming from his end.

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    id say grealish will eventually commit to the Republic.. Hopefully anyway

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    What I want to know has Stutts subjected Jack to his fabled gut?
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    I can't speak for Stutts but I believe he previously stated that Grealish has a provisional pass on the gut test, pending further analysis.

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    I said nowt about the test.

    But now that you brought it up I think we need a revaluation.
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    Could it be that if we end up with an injured winger or someone has to go back to England after the Scottish game, our Jack will come to the rescue? Would make his ascent to senior football look very dignified and not seem like we are panicking about losing him. Just a wild and speculative theory, that keeps me in hope that this will be resolved sometime soon!
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    I like Gastric's potential version of events. Who knows?

    One thing I must say, is that there's a solid chance that Jack's father is a tad excitable. The version of events regarding Fallon sounds fairly plausible and it's not outside the realms of possibility that Kevin inferred to Fallon that Jack would be made available for USA game and also inferred that this would result in Martin O'Neill picking him.

    People seem to be expecting a lot of the circumstances surrounding Jack to be black and white but if his father is excitable and Jack is a teenager, mixed messages and a touch of grey are bound to be exuded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olé Olé View Post
    One thing I must say, is that there's a solid chance that Jack's father is a tad excitable. The version of events regarding Fallon sounds fairly plausible and it's not outside the realms of possibility that Kevin inferred to Fallon that Jack would be made available for USA game and also inferred that this would result in Martin O'Neill picking him.

    People seem to be expecting a lot of the circumstances surrounding Jack to be black and white but if his father is excitable and Jack is a teenager, mixed messages and a touch of grey are bound to be exuded.
    I think there's a good chance that's getting closer the truth. I don't know anything about Mr. Grealish but he seems to like being involved. He doesn't seem to be in any way helpful and I think MON might be getting a bit tired of dealing with a person who seems a bit unprofessional. The fact that his brother was posting this and that on message boards suggests there isn't much cop on there overall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gastric View Post
    Could it be that if we end up with an injured winger or someone has to go back to England after the Scottish game, our Jack will come to the rescue? Would make his ascent to senior football look very dignified and not seem like we are panicking about losing him. Just a wild and speculative theory, that keeps me in hope that this will be resolved sometime soon!
    i dunno, it's not like announcing his call up now now would result in the actual qualifier being a sideshow or anything hysterical like that.

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    His father stated on his facebook page on October 19 (under the same one where he posted the Jack v Brad Guzan message) that there was "Nothing happening in this" so I assume he knew at this stage that Jack wasn't being called/accepting a call up.


    Looks to me that his father jumped the gun on this.
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