QuoteNo, and particularly not when he is being paid to do so by an English TV channel!!!Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
You can support more than one team internationally.
I'd say a few of us in here are the same. I'm happy enough because I've always like Everton and Hull, and Stoke have turned into a fairly likeable side.
No, and particularly not when he is being paid to do so by an English TV channel!!!
You can support more than one team internationally.
seems quite excited about longs goal against england in this commentary piece...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkiMhAnZD4A
Its not partisan or rash. Its bleeding obvious! I'm not looking through green tinted glasses, I'm not living in a bunker either. I'm reading his tweets and the fact he refused a senior call up. I would suggest you are being irrational by still thinking he is ours to lose or the situation isn't clear cut.It's not that posters ignored or failed to comprehend his tweets; everyone is aware of the possibility of him switching, but some would rather acknowledge the present ambiguity of the situation rather than jumping to rash and partisan conclusions. He hasn't switched to England, nor is there any certainty that he will.
He could still well play for Ireland, there are few certainties in life, but by all accounts and likelihood he will play for England and that is based purely on his outpourings and current actions.
I'm a bloke,I'm an ocker
And I really love your knockers,I'm a labourer by day,
I **** up all me pay,Watching footy on TV,
Just feed me more VB,Just pour my beer,And get my smokes, And go away
I don't even know what the point is in saying it anymore because you'll just ignore what I'm saying again. He stated that he supported England senior team on Twitter even though he plays (underage) for Ireland. He has since gone on to turn down a call up to the senior team. Yes he's a dual national. I'm more than aware of this. It gives him the chance of playing for England or Ireland as a fall back option. His loyalties are to himself. He is a professional footballer. And I'm not judging him. This is what modern footballers are like. Face it. I'm simply being realistic here. Life changing is a bit melodramatic tbh and it undermines genuine life changing decisions. He is a professional footballer at the end of the day.
Yes. If he is good enough to play for England, he could play in every tournament which will factor in his decision. It also may get him the Brylcreem deal he won't get if he's playing for Ireland. It could also be because he is an England supporter. Now we're on to something. You're actually agreeing with what I said in the past - there is no sentiment in his decision. You mention Kevin Kilbane. He himself said that by the time someone is in the U-21 team, there shouldn't be any indecision about what country he wants to play for.
I think it's a sad thing that footballers can't just play for their country. I think it's a sad thing that someone turns down a call up to our national team when he hasn't so much as got an U-21 call up for England.
Funny how people didn't agree when I said a few months ago that it would be cynical of the FAI to call up Grealish but now the goalposts have changed.
I'm not thrilled about them but I'm under no illusions as to why they are playing for Ireland. I suppose it may be hard on me to judge Grealish for actually being potentially good enough to play for England but if he wants to play for England long-term I don't think he should be taking squad places from someone (English or Irish) who actually wants to play for Ireland or sees their long-term future with Ireland.
I don't see how it changes his life. If he is good enough he will play for England imo. If he isn't, he'll play for Ireland. If he gets tied for Ireland, turns out to be the next Ronaldinho and leads a fulfilled Intl. career I don't see how he should live with any regrets for his decision to play for us. Likewise if he plays for England and only gets 5 caps, I don't think he should regret that. He should be happy to play for his country. It shouldn't come down to anything other than that.
Did he though? I thought he stated that the reason he turned down England was because he was playing with a higher age group with Ireland and wanted to play at the most competitive level.
Well it's hard to see what the positives are. The fear is that a very talented player has turned down a senior call up and if he goes on to get full honors for England (I doubt he will) it will mean nothing to us. If he ends up playing for Ireland it could realistically take anywhere between two and four years.
Do you all not think you're overthinking things?
Annoying, isn't it?
I do agree with this though.
on that note, he retweeted his birthday wishes from the FAI - https://twitter.com/JackGrealish1
But he didn't reply to them?? What does it all mean??
He shares an agent with Yaya Toure?
The 'Grealish to Man City' rumours start here.
Ou-est le Centre George Pompidou?
Jack Grealish @JackGrealish1 12m
Congrats to gabby on his new contract
Disgraceful behaviour considering he's on his way to Chelsea.
Video is not available in your country!!!
Seems like you can only view it from Ireland?
He has explicitly stated we're in his long-term plans and he remains an FAI-registered player. Personally (or selfishly-speaking), I thought calling him up was worth a shot (a sly one, sure) in order to dispel the sort of discussion we're presently having (and to get him tied), but that he didn't want to rush into accepting an admittedly cynical call-up isn't necessarily a sign that he's going to switch to England, nor is it a sign that he's intent on doing so if given the chance. He'd rather not rush into what is a life-... nay, career-changing decision and would possibly prefer to have a greater think about the matter before fully committing. That's OK; he's a dual national with split loyalties and it's a big decision for him. It's not that I'm naive to the possibility of him switching either; I'd just rather not automatically suspect that an 18-year-old is deceiving me just because he might have cold feet.
Not quite. I've said that many factors are sure to colour a decision and just because he might include career-oriented considerations in his decision-making process, it doesn't mean that he's a full-blown mercenary who holds no sentiment for Ireland and his Irish heritage.
Can't get it either.
Was Townsend actually sobbing in studio after we were eliminated in 2002, by the way? Is there a video of that anywhere?
There is an article in the Mirror about him wanting an English call, although no direct quotes from him.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/aston-villas-jack-grealish-chasing-4196817
Last edited by TrapAPony; 10/09/2014 at 10:12 PM.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/footba...hasing-4196817
Seems to be all speculation, although hard to know what's been said off-record. I like this line:
O'Neill basically said as much last week. Hardly a scoop.MirrorSport understands he politely declined a chance to train with Martin O’Neill’s full Irish squad during this international break.
Front page of tomorrow's Star, Grealish apparently accused Stephen Quinn of calling him a 'fake Paddy' during the Hull game.
In this article, Darren Potter comments on the England result and does not mention Ireland at all! Another bloody Englishman showing no loyalty to the cause.
http://www.mkweb.co.uk/8203-MK-Dons-...ail/story.html
Even by the standards of footballers' columns, that is spectacularly dry.
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