Predict the Squad/ Starting Lineup for Macedonia

**the bear** · 23/03/2011, 6:28 PM

Originally Posted by geysir

Seamus Coleman has a strange Donegal accent, strange in the sense that it's easy on the ears and understandable.

eye sir eye sir

**EastTerracer** · 23/03/2011, 7:07 PM

Originally Posted by Stuttgart88

Any updates from any of the hacks who were at today's training?

I guess no news, other than Best, is good news.

Caption: "What do you mean, I'd be better off at Stoke?"

**geysir** · 23/03/2011, 7:16 PM

Trap is asking, what are you doing over here? - the ball is over there!

**Stuttgart88** · 23/03/2011, 7:29 PM

Dunne & Keane both fit according to Tardelli.

Coleman and Gibson both trained today after recovering from minor injuries.

Duff and St. Leger sat out training but are expected to be fit.

All of above from Sky Sports News.

**paul_oshea** · 23/03/2011, 8:26 PM

Originally Posted by geysir

Seamus Coleman has a strange Donegal accent, strange in the sense that it's easy on the ears and understandable.

if as in strange you mean different as in uncommon its not strange at all just yer typical killybegs kilcar south west donegal accent.its almost like a mellow more monotone donegal accent without the high pitch wavy animated accent one generally associates with donegal. i find a lot that are out of south donegal for a while have that more subtle accent more than the ever present natives.

**tetsujin1979** · 23/03/2011, 8:33 PM

Originally Posted by geysir

Seamus Coleman has a strange Donegal accent, strange in the sense that it's easy on the ears and understandable.

just on that, a Donegal lad I work with had to do a voiceover for an instructional video recently. It was uploaded to youtube, and when we checked it out, he'd been replaced with some dope from the States.

Coincidentally, or perhaps not, he gave his notice last week.

**mark12345** · 23/03/2011, 8:34 PM

Regarding James McCarthy. The concensus now seems to be that James will play the last 30, 20 or 15 minutes of the game. I'm already typing up my letter of resignation for Trap if we don't win. Not playing McCarthy from the off is playing with fire. The reason we're in the chasing pack instead of out in front in Group 2 is because we can't hold the ball in midfield. Then, when given a player who is one of the most consistent midfielders in the Premier League, and one who can hold and distribute the ball, we pass up the chance at playing him?? He is quite a bit better than both Whelan and Gibson (it should be a Gibson/McCarthy partnership in the middle). Another needless gamble by Trap if in fact he does keep MCarthy out of the starting eleven.

**geysir** · 23/03/2011, 8:34 PM

Originally Posted by paul_oshea

if as in strange you mean different as in uncommon its not strange at all just yer typical killybegs kilcar south west donegal accent.its almost like a mellow more monotone donegal accent without the high pitch wavy animated accent one generally associates with donegal. i find a lot that are out of south donegal for a while have that more subtle accent more than the ever present natives.

Well then obviously most Donegal accents I'm exposed to are of the hyper high pitched wavy variety.
Probably the closer to Roscommon one is, the more mellow the heart becomes.

**Stuttgart88** · 23/03/2011, 8:36 PM

I'm not sure I've ever heard an accent commented upon with such authority. PO'S - dialectologist.

**paul_oshea** · 23/03/2011, 8:51 PM

accent and dialect Stutts?are they the same thing

no Stutts you left your roots in Dublin. i still very much associate with mine.

**geysir** · 23/03/2011, 9:04 PM

Stutts is a dual rooted Irishman.

**Crosby87** · 23/03/2011, 9:24 PM

It's interesting that all (Er....European descent) Aussies sound alike, regardless of where they are from. Because their relatives came from different parts of England or where ever. A bartender explained why in detail to me recently. I would have thought by now there would be a difference but an Aussie told me she can't ever tell where anyone is from.
Now I'll put a helmet on and get ready for incoming corrections.

**Kingdom** · 23/03/2011, 9:27 PM

Originally Posted by Stuttgart88

He was injured before he came over. The jinx hasn't struck yet. Hopefully Jon Walters' missus will pop the sprog out promptly and he can come over.

My Mrs is due soon. If she tries any of this delaying tactics nonsense like Mrs Walters I'll be elbow deep reefing the sprog out myself.

**SkStu** · 24/03/2011, 3:34 AM

I think Geysir, Paul and a few others need to get a thread for themselves just like the Nordie eligibility/poaching threads.

Seriously lads, its getting awful tiring.

**Supreme feet** · 24/03/2011, 5:06 AM

So, back on topic, it looks like Westwood, Foley, Dunne, St. Ledger, Whelan, Duff, Keane and Doyle are nailed on to start. The variables are Kilbane/Clark for left-back, McGeady/Lawrence/Coleman for the right-hand side, and Gibson/Fahey/Green fighting to partner Whelan. The selection of Kilbane, Green and Lawrence will have the Trap critics sharpening their knives again, and in KK and PG's case, for good reason.

We know McCarthy won't start, unfortunately, but hopefully we'll be in a comfortable enough position to throw him on for the last half-hour. We'll have Uruguay, NI and Scotland to bed him into the midfield then, if he does well.

Spending my afternoon in work watching Youtube videos of Macedonia, and from what little I've seen, they don't look too clever when players run at them (McFadden for Scotland is a prime example). If McGeady starts alongside Duff, they could cause havoc. If Gibson starts too, there's an extra goal threat. If Macedonia play 4-4-2 as Tardelli suggested, we should be able to get more of the ball in midfield than usual - so Whelan needs to have one of his better games. With Foley and Clark well able to pass forward from full-back, we (hopefully) won't be hoofing it long that often.

We have a good enough team on paper to win comfortably if everything 'clicks' for us, and Trap makes the best of the borderline selections. However, there's every chance of it being a frustrating dogfight, like Cyprus and Georgia at home in the last campaign.

**Stuttgart88** · 24/03/2011, 6:45 AM

Back onto the real topic at hand, I think a dialectologicist is also, by definition, an accent specialist. There's a football forum for the other stuff.

Sorry Stu, I'll abstain from now.

**paul_oshea** · 24/03/2011, 7:53 AM

Originally Posted by SkStu

I think Geysir, Paul and a few others need to get a thread for themselves just like the Nordie eligibility/poaching threads.

Seriously lads, its getting awful tiring.

Sorry, we will include you more often from now on

**ifk101** · 24/03/2011, 7:53 AM

Originally Posted by Supreme feet

We have a good enough team on paper to win comfortably if everything 'clicks' for us, and Trap makes the best of the borderline selections. However, there's every chance of it being a frustrating dogfight, like Cyprus and Georgia at home in the last campaign.

Covering all the bases there.

**paul_oshea** · 24/03/2011, 7:58 AM

Originally Posted by Supreme feet

So, back on topic, it looks like Westwood, Foley, Dunne, St. Ledger, Whelan, Duff, Keane and Doyle are nailed on to start. The variables are Kilbane/Clark for left-back, McGeady/Lawrence/Coleman for the right-hand side, and Gibson/Fahey/Green fighting to partner Whelan. The selection of Kilbane, Green and Lawrence will have the Trap critics sharpening their knives again, and in KK and PG's case, for good reason.

Spending my afternoon in work watching Youtube videos of Macedonia, and from what little I've seen, they don't look too clever when players run at them (McFadden for Scotland is a prime example). If McGeady starts alongside Duff, they could cause havoc. If Gibson starts too, there's an extra goal threat. If Macedonia play 4-4-2 as Tardelli suggested, we should be able to get more of the ball in midfield than usual - so Whelan needs to have one of his better games. With Foley and Clark well able to pass forward from full-back, we (hopefully) won't be hoofing it long that often.

We have a good enough team on paper to win comfortably if everything 'clicks' for us, and Trap makes the best of the borderline selections. However, there's every chance of it being a frustrating dogfight, like Cyprus and Georgia at home in the last campaign.

We never ever win these games comfortably. It will be the same old same old. We always get our hopes up and say oh well maybe we have turned a corner or perhaps this will be the point in the campaign where we proved we have moved up a level under trap blah blah blah.

I didnt see tardelli said they play 4-4-2 as all I've seen from the macedonians is they play a 4-3-3....but i gather from the DVDs he has watched he is more aware of this than they might be letting on.

You think mcgeady is not a def start on the left hand side? Is that incase he goes with clark? thats the reason i thought too, but im not so sure now.

**Supreme feet** · 24/03/2011, 8:10 AM

Originally Posted by paul_oshea

I didnt see tardelli said they play 4-4-2 as all I've seen from the macedonians is they play a 4-3-3....but i gather from the DVDs he has watched he is more aware of this than they might be letting on.

You think mcgeady is not a def start on the left hand side? Is that incase he goes with clark? thats the reason i thought too, but im not so sure now.

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...292954456.html

Tardelli said; “it doesn’t matter because Macedonia play 4-4-2 so for now, 4-4-2 is good for us”.

I'd imagine we'll start with Duff on the left. If McGeady starts they may interchange, depending on how the game is going. It's happened before. However, Trap might play Lawrence to give some protection to Foley, and for set-pieces.