Omagh

[lopez]

Because they gave warnings as to the location of the bomb. Just the RUC ****ed up and moved everyone to the wrong place, exactly where the bomb was.It's easy not to kill anyone if ye give warnings, no matter how big the bomb is.

It's easy to f*ck up and kill a load of people. Warnings were to be given at Frizzell's chip shop. Boom, a rake of people are killed and a week of slaughter commences. Birmingham was another example. Whenever you bring a bomb into a large crowded area there is always a good chance that there will be slaughter, because a bomb is so unstable: Warning or no warning.

It is the British government we're talking about here. They think nothing of having Irish people killed, there's plenty of evidence of that. It was MI5 that planted the Dublin and Monaghan bombs. It was the British military who shot down an Aer Lingus plane in 1968. Rosemary Nelson was killed by the British security services because she was involved with the Bloody Sunday families.

I think it's ludicrous of you to suggest that the RUC would never conspire to kill innocent people.
Have a look at 'The Victims' section of this site: http://www.relativesforjustice.com/ How many children can you count shot dead by the British Army and the RUC? Bet their familes wish they were living in your 'fantasy land'.

I'm not suggesting that all policemen are wonderful. The figures of fatalities to police and British army are there for everybody to see that does not distract from the fact that parts of the six counties were treated as a land under occupation. Nor do I doubt the omnipresence of MI5. I've always believed that their members passed through the Irish supporters club in London that I was on the committee of which often makes people I know think I'm touched. Also without risking this site open to a libel suit by a 'respectable' Northern politician who is very touchy to suggestions that he sat around a table with other 'respectable' politicians to discuss the murder of Catholics unconnected with any political or military group, there is plenty of evidence of collusion between the RUC, Army and other bodies. The assassination of Billy Wright is an example you've chosen to ignore (presumably because his life wasn't worth keeping) because Billy had some interesting information on some people you'd think butter wouldn't melt in their mouths.

I'm always sceptical of 'conspiracy theories' and I don't buy this with Omagh - which is what we're talking about - principally because of the lack of planning and the people involved. Everyone needs to be 'onside' for your scenario to happen which is easy with isolated rogue elements in the secret service (or their employees in the police) but harder with policemen on the ground. For this to happen everything would have had to be known about the bombing and then to have the 'right' policemen in place. One slip-up and the next minute you'll have a Minister going to prison as happened in Spain with the previous Socialist Minister of the Interior who set up death squads in the Basque country.

Anyway, as others have said, the blame for the carnage remains with the fascists - let's face, in as near to a democratic election that unionists would concede on an all-Ireland basis, the electorate (and not forgetting SF) had voted for the ending of such atrocities - who set off the bomb.

[dortie]

don't hold back, chuckie .... ".

No need for the personal insults. I take it you mean republican by the term...'Chuckie'.


Theres only around 160,000 chuckies in the North then and thats not counting those who disagree with Stormont.