League format 2011-2012

**nigel-harps1954** · 01/07/2011, 4:06 PM

Originally Posted by BonnieShels

Which makes you wonder what they'll manage to fudge if its shels or limerick in first and second and cork in third.

That's right. Galway United stay up Harps play off with Bray and Athlone go straight up.

I'll take that. Although us in Play-offs doesn't generally work well.

**culloty82** · 02/07/2011, 7:51 PM

Originally Posted by Martinho II

is this the same noel white that was coach at UCD, Longford Town and Shels?

Yes, it is, they needed someone with a UEFA licence when they were applying.

**peadar1987** · 03/07/2011, 11:39 AM

Originally Posted by Mr A

Will Cobh be in a fit state to step up again? Some of the indications from Cobh posters have been pretty negative.

Not sure whether Fanad will look to step up but they probably could if they wanted to. Can anyone offer any insight on the situation with Carlow or Tralee?

Jeebus, Cork to Fanad would be some away trip! According to Google Maps, 509 km, and it'd take you six and a half hours! Estimated fuel cost a very reasonable 70 quid

**Sam_Heggy** · 03/07/2011, 12:59 PM

Originally Posted by peadar1987

Jeebus, Cork to Fanad would be some away trip! According to Google Maps, 509 km, and it'd take you six and a half hours! Estimated fuel cost a very reasonable 70 quid

Probably an extra 30 minutes than what they would have traveled last night.

**peadar1987** · 03/07/2011, 1:20 PM

Originally Posted by Sam_Heggy

Probably an extra 30 minutes than what they would have traveled last night.

I've spent almost 30 minutes trying to get across one junction in Ballybofey! The greatest of respect to anyone who makes the trip up to Finn Park, or any Harps supporter who travels away, Donegal isn't the easiest place to get to or from!

**gufct** · 03/07/2011, 1:21 PM

Big rumor in Galway is that Salthill are pulling out of the leagus at the end of this season. Hopefully we can see ourselves through until then.

**Sam_Heggy** · 03/07/2011, 1:32 PM

Originally Posted by peadar1987

I've spent almost 30 minutes trying to get across one junction in Ballybofey! The greatest of respect to anyone who makes the trip up to Finn Park, or any Harps supporter who travels away, Donegal isn't the easiest place to get to or from!

If it's the junction Bar then It's safe to say lots of people have spent alot more than 30 minutes trying to get through it.

Wait until ye are trying to find Fanad, now that will be a story and a half.

**El-Pietro** · 03/07/2011, 11:02 PM

Originally Posted by Sam_Heggy

Probably an extra 30 minutes than what they would have traveled last night.

depends which way you do it, bunch of us split the journey by going to Galway on Friday for the UCD game first

**legendz** · 07/07/2011, 9:58 PM

Originally Posted by MagicMon

You wanna see what they have planned if Monaghan finish in the promotion spots- the whole LOI will be cancelled and all the footballs in Ireland will be confiscated by the FAI

lol, I'm sure that'll be the case alright. It's a joke really that so many seem to be sure or unsure and no official word on the league format for next season. Are there any journalists worth their salt who can report on the story?

**dfx-** · 08/07/2011, 1:38 AM

Originally Posted by MagicMon

You wanna see what they have planned if Monaghan finish in the promotion spots- the whole LOI will be cancelled and all the footballs in Ireland will be confiscated by the FAI

It'll take more than that to get rid of Bray Wanderers..

**culloty82** · 13/07/2011, 12:46 PM

The latest development, according to Tralee, is that even if all four A Championship clubs meet the First Division licensing criteria, only two will be elected. If other clubs are selected on merit, there will be no complaints, but given the progress made by individual clubs (Dynamos, Killarney Celtic, Castleisland, Fenit Samphires), especially at youth level, failure to win First Division status would be a hammerblow to the development of the sport in Kerry, so it would be in the KDL's interest to work closely with Dynamos to ensure they make the grade.

**Mr A** · 13/07/2011, 12:56 PM

But hold on- we have 11 D1 clubs currently, or 9 for next year after the format change, so electing 2 makes no sense. 1, 3 or even 5 if they could be found would make a lot more.

In any case, how would Tralee not making it (and I hope they do) affect other clubs in Kerry?

**culloty82** · 13/07/2011, 1:17 PM

That's the key issue that's been going around the last three years, after the KDL were forced out of the U-20 league, the plan was that a Kerry team would enter the A Championship, but when that fell through, Tralee went it alone. Since then, they've wanted players from the other KDL clubs to join up with them, but for the most part, they've refused. Maybe if Tralee become full League members, the prospect of playing Waterford, Limerick etc would encourage the other clubs to come on board, but the goal of all sides for the last decade at least has been to have an adult team in the First Division.

**Mr A** · 13/07/2011, 1:20 PM

Hmmm.. junior clubs happily cooperating with their local senior side?.... tricky.

That's hard to achieve for established senior clubs and it could well be even harder for those that come up from the junior ranks.

**gufc2000** · 13/07/2011, 1:21 PM

Originally Posted by Mr A

But hold on- we have 11 D1 clubs currently, or 9 for next year after the format change, so electing 2 makes no sense. 1, 3 or even 5 if they could be found would make a lot more.

In any case, how would Tralee not making it (and I hope they do) affect other clubs in Kerry?

If the rumour of Salthill dropping out is true that would even it up again.

The strange thing is, where do they expect two of Tralee, Carlow, Cobh and Fanad to go? Going back to the regional leagues would be a step back.

**Mr A** · 13/07/2011, 1:39 PM

Ah, I had forgotten about the Salthill rumour. In fairness it was around last year as well so not sure what to make of it, but if the lack of interest from them at our last fixture was anything to go by it may well be true.

For the record, I think they should let in any A championship club who meets the criteria.

**shep** · 13/07/2011, 1:48 PM

Ah they should just put the whole lot together....sure it would be great craic if nothing else

**passerrby** · 13/07/2011, 5:44 PM

Originally Posted by shep

Ah they should just put the whole lot together....sure it would be great craic if nothing else

there speaks the voice of sanity... tinged with some sarcasm

**legendz** · 14/07/2011, 8:29 PM

Is the Premier definitely expanding to 12, with 10th Premier v 3rd in a play-off?

I still don't see why the A Championship can't continue, just remove the stipulation Premier clubs have to field a team. A Championship clubs don't seem to have lobbied much for it's retention, even in a revamp of the format, so I guess there can't be too many complaints at the same time.

Originally Posted by culloty82

That's the key issue that's been going around the last three years, after the KDL were forced out of the U-20 league, the plan was that a Kerry team would enter the A Championship, but when that fell through, Tralee went it alone. Since then, they've wanted players from the other KDL clubs to join up with them, but for the most part, they've refused. Maybe if Tralee become full League members, the prospect of playing Waterford, Limerick etc would encourage the other clubs to come on board, but the goal of all sides for the last decade at least has been to have an adult team in the First Division.

If it's true the plan was for a Kerry team to enter, it's a shame that didn't materialise. Tralee isn't going to get the backing of Killarney and other areas. A Kerry team to represent the region would've been a great way to go, in terms of getting more players involved and getting more support behind the team. When Tralee Dynamos joined forces with Kingdom Dynamos, I thought at A Championship level the team could've gone with the name Kingdom Dynamos reflecting the merger for that level and more a representation of the region while Tralee Dynamos continue in the KDL.

**Sam_Heggy** · 15/07/2011, 8:33 AM

Legendz, if you remove the compulsory entry for Premier Teams you'll be left with maybe 3 or 4 in each section, meaning all will have to be put in together and Im pretty sure that if we have to travel to Tralee to play an A League game, it simply won't happen.