QuoteNever mind 'Fatter', you all missed the chance to correct various eejits on the previous link and now even "Ingerland's finest" has waded in...Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy
http://www.theguardian.com/football/...and?CMP=twt_gu
I'd give him the women in shorts one, if it came from anybody else but but a sweaty, plump, elderly, panting man who's smaller than Danny DeVito.
Never mind 'Fatter', you all missed the chance to correct various eejits on the previous link and now even "Ingerland's finest" has waded in...
http://www.theguardian.com/football/...and?CMP=twt_gu
Does article 8.2 definitely cover the situation of a new state/nationality or states/nationalities being formed from the splitting up of a former state? Did Montenegrins (without heritage or territorial ties to Serbia) automatically lose any right to post-split Serbian citizenship (assuming the pre-split citizenship was not continuous) when Serbia & Montenegro was divided into two?
What situation exactly does "without his consent or against his will due to a decision by a government authority" cover and does the phrase create strict criteria? Did Montenegrins lose their former citizenship without their consent or against their will, for example?
I suppose the English FA, can if they want, opt out of the UK agreement in order to pick a few free willing resident players in their middle to late 20's, forgotten by the country of their birth.
ATM, they assume any player would willingly wait 5 years, just dying to don the 3 lions shirt, that no player in their right mind would give a fiddler's fart for a backwoods place like Albania and it's completely out of the equation that the kid would ever consider a move (inside the 5 years) to a club in another country, because of his pure love for England.
Didn't this (eliminating residency from the criteria) part of the UK agreement come about because the other 3 FA's were concerned about the FA scooping up their best players?
Does the dog wag the tail in this UK agreement thing, or does the tail (sfa wfa ifa) wag the dog (FA) in the form of a democratic vote?
The English FA could get fed up with puny, servile, annoying whiny accented mini brits like the IFA, telling them what's what.
I don't know the situation with the break-up of Serbia and Montenegro, whether people from the latter were offered citizenship of Serbia. I can't see that article being complete enough to cover all instances though.
Can we be certain its purpose is to cover such a situation at all? Wasn't the split democratic, consensual and willing (by and large)?
Last edited by DannyInvincible; 09/10/2013 at 11:38 AM.
Yeah would people of the later want citizenship to Serbia?
No Somos muchos pero estamos locos.
I don't think its intention is to cover that at all, and I suspect the lack of a formal rule for such cases is down to FIFA not wanting to encourage breakaway associations.
There's a Serb minority in Montenegro like everywhere else in the former Yugoslavia. There are a few Kosovan Serbs in the current Serbia set-up.
But you do still maintain that it covers such a break-up situation though (even if unintentionally)? Unless I've misunderstood, isn't that what you were arguing in post #5758? I'm not so sure if it does at all.
Sorry, I wasn't clear. I was saying that's the only situation FIFA statutes cover formally and breakaway associations is a separate case that's not covered in the statutes but nevertheless occurs.
That's my view too.
I think young Jack has his eye on this job vacancy
http://news.sky.com/story/1151663/to...n-from-the-edl
I think FIFA are actually more supportive and proactive in this area, ready to do a deal (if the price is right).
The rule was always there, that a parent association had to approve of a split/separation, like with Catalonia or Basque country, if they wanted to go solo. Naturally there's no question of the parent association's permission mattering, if a separated region has won independence and gained recognition.
The problem Kosovo has, is more to do with the UN status being used as the criteria for acceptance. As it currently stands, the UN does not deserve that status because of the power and the exercise of the veto.
It should be, that if a region has a majority of UN members in favour of recognition, then after 3 or 5 years period, it automatically becomes a member, regardless of Russia or China or US opposition. Kosovo independence is supported by the vast majority of European countries, not Russia or Serbia.
It's UEFA who are the thorn in Kosova's cause to be recognised. It was UEFA who pulled back FIFA after FIFA gave Kosovo permission to play intl friendlies. It's Platini in particular who has a bee in his bonnet about Kosovo.
That's a mere supposition, geysir, based on no existing evidence. On the other hand, we have the FIFA statutes which clearly forbid a player from representing two separate associations at competitive A level and we have the word of the reputable anti-slavery campaigner Herr Blatter.
The thread has evolved to a better place Charlie, keep pace with your own theory.
Watched Mclaughlin playing on the left of a front three for liverpool 21s on Monday. Serious footballer, scored, won peno, brought a couple of good saves from keeper and some nice crossing. Hopefully he comes into the fold. He looks ready for first team football. Tottenhams irish winger was there best player very light though very hard to see him playing premiership football.
McLaughlin is supposed to be terrific and a lot of Pool fans reckon he will get game time this year, though it might depend on whether Liverpool remain challenging for the Champions League places.
I've been very impressed with McEvoy. Hope you're wrong about him not making it though!!
Due to his physique? He could always bulk up, like his doppelgänger did.
The London Indo has compiled a list of English sporting individuals who would not have been able to represent England under Wilshere's theory of eligibility. It would be interesting if we listed our own list as I think it would pretty long too!
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/f...gallery&ino=50
Last edited by gastric; 14/10/2013 at 6:37 AM.
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