Eligibility Rules, Okay

Thread: Eligibility Rules, Okay

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  1. ArdeeBhoy said:
    Hmm, he's hardly the most reliable witness.
    A certain person of mutual acquaintance on here, who was there, implied otherwise.
     
  2. geysir said:
    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin View Post
    Do you have a source for Bryson denying it? Not that I disbelieve you, just interested. Severe breach of ethics if so.
    It's a severe breach of journalistic ethics to stitch up Bryson in that way, if he didn't confirm directly to the journalist that the song was sung at the stadium. It's not as if Bryson would refuse a phone call from a journalist. And it's not as if there's a dearth of real life material to ridicule Bryson with. A journalist should be dammed forever if they were so backward that they had to manufacture mud to throw at Bryson.

    But it's not a defamation.
     
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    DannyInvincible said:
    I suppose Bryson would have to prove that what he claims to have been a false statement made by the Belfast Telegraph caused harm to him or his reputation in some way. Whether it would be possible for him to prove so, I'm not sure; perhaps not.

    The article does state unambiguously that he confirmed the song was sung at the game inside the ground, whilst he claims he confirmed no such thing and implies it might only have been sung outside the ground. What can happen if a breach of journalistic ethics can be proven? Is that a mere moral "obligation" or expectation upon journalists and publishers or is there a legal framework in place to ensure that an ethical code of conduct is adhered to?
     
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    Charlie Darwin said:
    It would go to the Press Complaints Commission for arbitrage and the newspaper would likely post a retraction and possibly an apology and that would usually be the end of it. He'd have a hard time proving defamation if he tried.
     
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    Gather round said:
    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin View Post
    It would go to the Press Complaints Commission for arbitrage and the newspaper would likely post a retraction and possibly an apology and that would usually be the end of it. He'd have a hard time proving defamation if he tried
    Difficult to prove defamation (ie damage to reputation) when you're known mainly as a sectarian, rabble-rousing numbskull.

    Those of you on OWC can see plenty of detail of off-color songs at the game. I managed a version of Le Moribond/ Seasons in the Sun before following asleep in Cafe Barbarella laters.
     
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    BonnieShels said:
    Quote Originally Posted by Gather round View Post
    Difficult to prove defamation (ie damage to reputation) when you're known mainly as a sectarian, rabble-rousing numbskull.

    Those of you on OWC can see plenty of detail of off-color songs at the game. I managed a version of Le Moribond/ Seasons in the Sun before following asleep in Cafe Barbarella laters.
    I always forget about your ABBA fetish.
    DID YOU NOTICE A SIGN OUTSIDE MY HOUSE...?
     
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    Not Brazil said:
    Quote Originally Posted by DannyInvincible View Post
    He does appear to imply it was sung outside the ground though.
    It needs to be borne in mind that the Saviour of The Loyalist People (Jamie) does not believe that "The Billy Boys" is a sectarian ditty...he had that discussion on this Twitter Account once upon a time.
    The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
    But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
    Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
    And this is what we sang...
     
  8. ArdeeBhoy said:
    Ha ha, NB.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gather round View Post
    Those of you on OWC can see plenty of detail of off-colour songs at the game. I managed a version of Le Moribond/ Seasons in the Sun before following asleep in Cafe Barbarella laters.
    Except getting on/in there is more intractable or difficult than getting inside the 'mind' of Jamie Bryson.

    Quote Originally Posted by BonnieShels View Post
    I always forget about your ABBA fetish.
    Terry Jacks surely?
    GR is more of a Creedence CR/Kenny Rogers sort of person...
     
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    BonnieShels said:
    Quote Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy View Post
    Ha ha, NB.
    Terry Jacks surely?
    GR is more of a Creedence CR/Kenny Rogers sort of person...
    You be right. It was Westlife's double A-side with " I have a dream" that I was thinking of.
    DID YOU NOTICE A SIGN OUTSIDE MY HOUSE...?
     
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    IsMiseSean said:
    Quote Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy View Post
    GR is more of a Creedence CR/Kenny Rogers sort of person...
    Nothing wrong with Creedence!
     
  11. DannyInvincible's Avatar

    DannyInvincible said:
    Has someone (of significance) proposed the banning of 'God Save the Queen' being played before NI matches?

    Jamie Bryson tweeted this yesterday:

    Heinous proposals to ban the National Anthem from NI games. More fruit of the Belfast Agreement tree.
    And retweeted the following UKIP statement: http://ukipni.co.uk/wp13/?p=183

    UKIP’s Northern Ireland Culture Spokesperson, Brian Higginson says, “For UKIP, banning the national anthem at Northern Ireland football games is a non-starter.

    “Those suggesting the national anthem be banned are the very same people who bore us silly about the Good Friday Agreement, reminding us how their prized agreement can’t be ‘cherrypicked’. But they ignore the reality that the very same agreement states that Northern Ireland will remain a part of the UK, so long as the majority of people here wish. The playing of the national anthem at Northern Ireland games is consistent with that agreement and consistent with Northern Ireland’s position within the UK. It’s time these people practiced what they preach.

    “Furthermore, looking around us, our health service is broken, our education service is in chaos and there’s an apathetic dependence upon the public sector. All of which shows just how far removed the chattering classes are from the people they claim to represent.”
     
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    Gather round said:
    Quote Originally Posted by DannyInvincible View Post
    Has someone (of significance) proposed the banning of 'God Save the Queen' being played before NI matches?

    Jamie Bryson tweeted this yesterday:

    And retweeted the following UKIP statement: http://ukipni.co.uk/wp13/?p=183
    A fan, John Carson has started a petition to have a sporting anthem unique to NI played at games.

    http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/n...anthem-change/

    Which doesn't involve 'banning' anything.

    Squeaky's interest probably increases the chance of a Windsorvision song contest soonest. Never previously heard of the UKIP guy.
     
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    co. down green said:
    UKIP’s NI Culture Spokesperson!! - Brian Higginson
     
  14. ArdeeBhoy said:
    Bryson v.Higginson?

    Now there's a thought?


    And you signed Carson's petition GR??
     
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    Gather round said:
    Quote Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy View Post
    And you signed Carson's petition GR??
    Certainly did, top of page four.
     
  16. ArdeeBhoy said:
    Ha, I like the thought that every signature can be 'flagged', only in the North...


    And FWIW be amazed if this works.
     
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    Not Brazil said:
    Some hysterical reaction to the petition to use a Northern Ireland specific "sporting" Anthem at our matches - "erosion of our Britishness", "another sop to Republicans", "blame the GFA", "banning GSTQ" etc, etc.

    It seems to escape the attention of those gettng irate about such a proposal that the calls for change are fan driven.

    The problem is it's an extremely devisive issue amongst our fans - for the time being, maintaining the status quo is the easiest option for the IFA.
    The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
    But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
    Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
    And this is what we sang...
     
  18. ArdeeBhoy said:
    Hmm, know what their fans could do to promote that, but with almost total exception, doubt they would have the sense to do it...
     
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    DannyInvincible said:
     
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    The Fly said:
    They've given over large parts of Connacht to the Atlantic as well.
    Last edited by The Fly; 27/09/2013 at 9:25 PM.