QuoteNail on the head.Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy
Hmm, strange chap.
There was that picture of him with the green harp/'Erin Go Bragh'? flag, in a Cork pub which don't think is 'Photoshopped' that seems to mean he's pretty insecure about his identity, or an attention-seeker, orboth...
http://i49.tinypic.com/28bvbzm.jpg
Nail on the head.
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
Indeed, in that BT article, Jamie does not admit that the Billy song was sung at the match in Luxembourg.
He does not confirm or deny that the song was sung by NI supporters. He states that the song is not sectarian etc etc.
You might need to re-read the first half of this article, albeit it is from The BT.
Why would I need to reread the first half?
Where is Bryson quoted as confirming or admitting that the BB was sung?
Presumably you are being obtuse for some reason? Read the first line...
You mean to state that the BT claims Bryson confirmed the song was sung in Luxembourg?
Bryson denies he did, and I note that there is no quote from Bryson in the BT article to support their claim.
Therefore I state clearly and concisely, that there is no quote from Bryson in that BT article, where he admits that the BB song was sung in Luxembourg.
The article is a stitch-up, just because it's a stitch-up of a moron, doesn't make it any less of a stitch-up.
Except I didn't say he did. If you want to go down a pointless route of pedantry.
As for your other 'point', please read the second word of the second paragraph of the original article!
You are being as vague and slippery as Bryson
I didn't claim you said anything, I asked a question for clarification purposes.
Is that word (confirmed), a quote from Bryson or what the journalist plants?As for your other 'point', please read the second word of the second paragraph of the original article!
If it's the former, then it should be in quotes.
If it's the latter, then it's not a quote, is it?
Bryson is not quoted as confirming anything. An article needs direct quotes to back up an accusation of what a person is suppose to have said.
Ok, but you're in a minority of one with such semantics...
It's implied as is the case with lots of media. So what?
Always have to laugh when people claims the Billy Boys is no more sectarian than the Fields of Athenry - there is a special form of dementedness involved there. If they wanted to pick an Irish song that could be considered sectarian, they could always go with Amhran na bhFiann, although I suppose that would first require them to acknowledge that it exists.
Semantics my árse,
as if 'semantics' explains being able to discriminate the difference between a junk journalist and one who respects the minimum standard of reporting about what a person has actually said re a controversial event.
Ah I see, if Ardeebhoy is satisfied with the accuracy of an Indo news journalist's implication, therefore it must be true, because lots of other media do it.It's implied as is the case with lots of media. So what?
And when the implication is denied by Bryson, you take issue with somebody who points out that Bryson is not quoted in the article,
you say "so what" "it's implied", "lots of media (do it)"
Yes, geysir you're bored. No-one bar you is interested in such pettiness. Even when it's the Indo, any easy target.
Get over it...
Hard to tell from the article really. They may have asked him if the song was sung and he said 'yes' - hard (but not impossible) to quote him directly in that case. If he's been misrepresented then I'm sure wee Jamie will clear things up in due course.
It is reported that he confirmed it was sung.
He either confirmed it was sung or he has a case for defamation of character.Bryson (23) confirmed that the Billy Boys ... was sung at the match at Stade Josy Barthel.
Ha ha.
Its very simple, Bryson denies he confirmed it, and the BT does not carry any quotes where he admits he confirmed it.
I don't know how such journalism defames Bryson, imho it doesn't, at most the BT just has to correct a detail.
The laugh of a fool.
Last edited by geysir; 15/09/2013 at 10:18 PM.
Do you have a source for Bryson denying it? Not that I disbelieve you, just interested. Severe breach of ethics if so.
Ha ha. Except it's the truth. According to the august BT.
Look forward to you being a 'character witness' for the 'noble' Bryson...
Last edited by ArdeeBhoy; 15/09/2013 at 10:45 PM.
Bryson tweeted the following:
I tell BT there was no sectarian songs. They print headline saying there was sectarian songs. Agenda?BT headline deliberately misleading. Billy Boys never sung at game and in fact I said no contentious songs were sung in the ground.He does appear to imply it was sung outside the ground though.I did not hear that song sung in stadium no.
What people do amongst their own community outside the ground is their business. Only songs in ground were supporting teamYes I said that any songs sung outside the ground were ppls own business. And said I didn't view songs as sectarian
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