QuoteWould Rory Donnelly be eligible for our upcoming U21 campaign?
We seem to lack strikers maybe Noel could have a word...
I was gonna bring that up too but the complaints website limits the amount you can write.Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
I couldn't complain on the BBC Sport site so submitted an official complaint hence the change in text from what I posted a few minutes ago.
DID YOU NOTICE A SIGN OUTSIDE MY HOUSE...?
Would Rory Donnelly be eligible for our upcoming U21 campaign?
We seem to lack strikers maybe Noel could have a word...
Donnelly's position is interesting. O'Neill seems to believe he will not play for us, so why is he not willing to commit to them?
Should King call him up and see what happens? Lots of questioned that will need some sort of answer in the near future. It will certainly kick this thread back into life!
Player profile on Jones, he seems to be a tricky winger type!
Also, Wolves fans seem to really rate McAlinden and many think him joining us is a very good idea!
http://www.questia.com/library/1G1-2...erkid-donnelly
http://www.mfc.co.uk/page/squad/seni...~63963,00.html
http://www.molineuxmix.co.uk/vb/showthread.php?t=81991
Last edited by gastric; 03/06/2013 at 12:05 AM.
I see Billy Hamiliton has moved on......... from the Befast Telegraph today
'The other problem we have is the North/South issue.
I have no problem whatsoever if a young boy from a nationalist area wants to declare for the Republic, but some of these boys are being brought up through our system – it's like taking a nice piece of fruit, where they come along and say, 'this is ripe for the picking.'
If they want to take a player who has come through the IFA ranks, they should have to pay a compensation fee of somewhere between, say, half a million and a million pounds a player.
If they had to make that payment when they capped the player, it would make them think twice about whether he was worth it.
I know it's a thorny issue, but everyone would benefit.
The Republic would get a promising player, and we would get money that could be put back into the IFA to develop and coach more young players.
If I were involved in the IFA I wouldn't give up on this and would be lobbying Fifa about it.
In terms of the manager Michael O'Neill, I know results haven't gone his way, but I actually think he is doing a good job with the players he has at his disposal.'
Lovely turn of phrase in what was left unsaid.
What if the day comes, a lad who isn't from a nationalist area, decides purely from the viewpoint of his football career (as lets face it, several English born lads most likely have done down the years) to exercise his option to play for R.O.I. And the climate has evolved to a point where he would feel ok in doing this.
I realise and accept this will be met with varying responses but I'd view it as a truly wonderful moment for humanity on the island.
Why would we pay compensation to the IFA? Are they going to pay compensation to the English FA for the number of players they have capped that have been trained exclusively through the english system? Silly Billy.
I like high energy football. A little bit rock and roll. Many finishes instead of waiting for the perfect one.
Amen to the last two posts.
Though tbf, both points have been fairly raised before but worth repeating...
Jones isn't interested in declaring for us. He has his sights set on playing for England.
Seeing as international football is an entirely voluntary endeavour - in terms of an association volunteering to select and train a player if they so wish and a player volunteering to offer his playing services to an association if he so wishes - with no contractual obligations in place, talk of compensation is nonsensical.
It's also hypocritical for NI fans to make such demands, as Stu has pointed out.
There's also the issue of actually quantifying the value of benefits or services exchanged between player and association. It's not the one-way process some appear to think it is from which only the player has benefited to the detriment of the association concerned in the sense that that player will have returned something of value back to the association by partaking in their squad(s) and offering his playing services to them (and the paying supporters who turn up to watch them).
Edit just to add: Where on earth is Hamilton plucking the figure of "somewhere between, say, half a million and a million pounds a player" from? Just how significant is the contribution of an international association to a young player's development anyway? Surely, it's highly unlikely they'll have invested anywhere near such a sum in an individual player. It's not like club football where a player's club will have been paying him wages to justify such amounts when it comes to transfer fees, compensation and whatnot.
Last edited by DannyInvincible; 03/06/2013 at 6:02 PM.
A slight update.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22760647
That's evidence of the power of a broadside from Bonnie, touched with a 'hint' of a germanic reprimand.
Good grief, how much money does he think there is in international football? He also seems to be under the impression that pounds is the currency of European football. How cute.
The radio interview in full is 37 mins in. Think O'Neill speaks well on the topic.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b022b0t2
I try.
I'm liking the acceptance that he could've picked England as well.
DID YOU NOTICE A SIGN OUTSIDE MY HOUSE...?
Just on that option, I wonder if the level of animosity normally reserved for FAI-bound defectors is being similarly directed towards turn-coat Jones...
I don't believe I indicated he was interested in us, just that the attachment shows his eligilbility to play for us. Out of interest, have you got a link about his desire to play for England, Danny?
Using Hamiliton's logic, could we charge the IFA 10 million sterling for our sacrifice of Alex Bruce to play for them?
Last edited by gastric; 03/06/2013 at 10:39 PM.
From the BBC:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22745927It is believed Jones, born on Teesside, wants to play for England while the international intentions of former Cliftonville forward Donnelly are unclear.
Which players opted for NI despite being very much in the plans of the English national team? That would be a more fair comparison, even though it's been done to death before.
Iain Dowie?
It was already in this thread a day ago...
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