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    Quote Originally Posted by gastric View Post
    Bonnie, While the Herald Sun is a bit of a rag, the point they are making is that Harrington would be the No1 player for Ireland, if McIllroy and McDowell represented Northern Ireland in the World Cup event.
    But Harrington isn't the highest ranked player from Ireland.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BonnieShels View Post
    But Harrington isn't the highest ranked player from Ireland.
    You're being awkward for the sake of it, methinks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gastric View Post
    You're being awkward for the sake of it, methinks!
    Who's the highest ranked player from Ireland?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BonnieShels View Post
    Who's the highest ranked player from Ireland?
    If the article was correct, and it seems it's not, Harrington would be the highest ranked player from Ireland, if the two Macs represented NI, that is what the Sun is referring to. If you want to be pedantic about it, fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gastric View Post
    If the article was correct, and it seems it's not, Harrington would be the highest ranked player from Ireland, if the two Macs represented NI, that is what the Sun is referring to. If you want to be pedantic about it, fine.
    The HorseShoite was referring to a hypothetical that doesn't exist and involves them interpreting a statement ar$eways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BonnieShels View Post
    The HorseShoite was referring to a hypothetical that doesn't exist and involves them interpreting a statement ar$eways.
    So I take it from your reply that you did get it wrong!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gastric View Post
    So I take it from your reply that you did get it wrong!
    I don't know how you could do that.
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    Swansea's Belfast born striker Rory Donnelly as informed the IFA that he currently no longer wishes to be considered for selection to IFA teams.

    Wolves striker Liam McAlinden has switched to the FAI.

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    Presumably, Donnelly is open to selection by the FAI then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DannyInvincible View Post
    Presumably, Donnelly is open to selection by the FAI then?
    Rang Dublin the second he hung up with Belfast, no doubt.

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    More here: http://balls.ie/football/meet-the-la...r-the-republic

    Liam McAlinden of Wolves has declared for the Republic of Ireland despite playing for Northern Ireland at youth level and after being named in their U-21 squad to play Cyprus this week. The striker was born in England and qualifies for the North through his grandmother. He had the option of declaring for the North, the Republic and England. Northern Ireland manager Michael O’Neill was very disappointed in McAlinden’s decision telling the BBC:

    “Liam is a player who we had high hopes for and we’ve tried everything to keep him, I even went down to meet Liam and his agent Stephen. Could you imagine Giovanni Trapattoni doing that?

    But that’s what we need to do because we have such a small pool of players to choose from.

    Sadly for us the pull of the Republic was too strong. Liam qualifies for us through his grandfather born in Northern Ireland but most of his family are from the Republic.
    I think they’ve been in his ear and obviously family means a lot to a player, and he’s chosen to go and try his luck with the Republic.”

    McAlinden joins the likes of James McClean and Darron Gibson in declaring for the Republic ahead of the North.

    Another two players Middlesbrough midfielder Jordan Jones and Swansea forward Rory Donnelly have also said they do not wish to be considered for selection for Northern Ireland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DannyInvincible View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Michael O'Neill
    Could you imagine Giovanni Trapattoni doing that?
    He desn't have to.



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    And some more from the BBC: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22745927

    Wolves striker Liam McAlinden has become the latest player to switch allegiance from Northern Ireland to the Republic of Ireland.

    The teenager, who has represented NI at youth level, follows players including James McClean to make the move.

    Meanwhile, Middlesbrough midfielder Jordan Jones and Swansea forward Rory Donnelly do not wish to be considered for selection for Northern Ireland.

    The trio had been named in the U21 squad to play Cyprus on Thursday night.

    "We've made these players feel very welcome, but ultimately it's their decision and now we must concentrate on the players who do want to play for Northern Ireland," Northern Ireland senior manager Michael O'Neill told the Sunday Life.

    Darron Gibson, Shane Duffy, Marc Wilson and Daniel Kearns also opted for the Republic after playing for Northern Ireland at youth level.

    They took advantage of a Fifa ruling that allows players from the island of Ireland to choose which national side they represent, provided they have not played for the other in a competitive senior international.

    This ruling did not apply to McAlinden, who is English-born and had the option of playing for Northern Ireland, the Republic and England.
    Where do they concoct this nonsense?

    It seems Donnelly's future intentions are still uncertain, however...

    It is believed Jones, born on Teeside, wants to play for England while the international intentions of former Cliftonville forward Donnelly are unclear.

    "He hasn't ruled anything out in the future and certainly hasn't closed the door on playing for Northern Ireland," said Donnelly's agent Gerry Carlisle.

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    Glad to see this thread get back to its core purpose - breaking news on international newcomers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by co. down green View Post
    Wolves striker Liam McAlinden has switched to the FAI.
    Good news, a guy with a chance from early showings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DannyInvincible View Post
    And some more from the BBC: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22745927



    Where do they concoct this nonsense?

    I presume a strongly worded response is in the offing Danny?
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    Couldn't resist:

    Quote Originally Posted by Me to the BBC
    The article regarding the switching of Liam McAlinden's "allegiance" to the FAI from the IFA contains a comment which is factually incorrect and is also a common error contained within most articles pertaining to eligibility of Irish citizens who wish to play for their country.

    The following is the inaccurate paragraph:
    "Darron Gibson, Shane Duffy, Marc Wilson and Daniel Kearns also opted for the Rep. after playing for N. Ireland at youth level.
    They took advantage of a Fifa ruling that allows players from the island of Ireland to choose which national side they represent, provided they have not played for the other in a competitive senior international. This ruling did not apply to McAlinden..."

    There is no such ruling. Darron Gibson and Daniel Kearns et al chose to play for their senior national team based on FIFA statutes that apply to EVERY national team on the planet.
    There may be some confusion stemming possibly from the CAS ruling against the IFA re Daniel Kearns right to play for the representative teams of the FAI.
    I would suggest that as the primary news resource for Britain that maybe you guys could brush up on the very basics of the FIFA statutes when discussing them in relation to Irish nationals who wish to switch "allegiance".

    May I point you to:
    http://playereligibilityinireland.bl...ontext-of.html
    and the Daniel Kearns CAS ruling:
    http://www.tas-cas.org/d2wfiles/docu...ward202071.pdf
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    Ha, good job! You saved me the time, which I don't have a lot of at the minute.

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    Actually, the BBC's wording also gives the impression that anyone born anywhere on the island can play for either side, which, of course, is not the case. A Dublin-born Irish national with no connection to NI as stipulated in the statutes cannot declare for the IFA, for example. I just can't understand how they can still be so ignorant and misinformed in relation to the eligibility issue.

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