It is precisely the thoughts of McGuigan that made me so angry at Rory.Originally Posted by gastric
Ya dig now?
Also... where's your comments on the totty thread. I demand satisfaction now!
That is not the four provinces flag. That's a bast@rdisation of it.
This is the flag that should be used in all contentious sitchyashuns.
Pretty inoffensive to all and one I would be proud to stand beside.
Last edited by BonnieShels; 05/01/2013 at 6:58 PM.
DID YOU NOTICE A SIGN OUTSIDE MY HOUSE...?
Let's forget about the flag and focus on the fact that "Ireland's Call" is utterly rubbish and horrible, and if your soul doesn't die a little when that key change comes along, you are probably an evil person who drowns kittens and supports Sporting Fingal.
I think I called it correctly, the 'IRFU 4 provinces flag'.
There is little hope for any compromise on any issue if the IRFU's 4 provinces flag is regarded with such intoleranceThat's a bast@rdisation of it. This is the flag that should be used in all contentious sitchyashuns.
Pretty inoffensive to all and one I would be proud to stand beside.
That's assuming they entered under the auspices of the GUI. Are the GUI affiliated to the organisation that sanctions the Golf World Cup? The International Federation of PGA Tours organise it, but the GUI is affiliated to the R&A, the global governing body except in the US and Mexico. The R&A doesn't appear to have anything to do with the World Cup.
The photo was definitely from the 2011 World Cup in Hainan, by the way.
Is the Four Provinces Flag uncontentious though? I had always thought unionists viewed it as possessing republican connotations, but perhaps I'm mistaken.
CAIN states of the flag:
The final sentence makes sense given what the flag represents, but are unionists entirely comfortable with it?This flag represents the four provinces of Ireland. Ulster is represented by the red and yellow nine counties flag. Munster is represented by three crowns on a blue background. Connaught has an eagle and an arm holding a knife, while Leinster is shown with a harp on a green background. The flag is almost exclusively used by Nationalists and Republicans.
A nice flag for the various districts of your country, ditto our country, all in a funny-shaped ball design. Surely a banner for all egg-chasing fans to unite around?
I wouldn't put it past authorities in this country to design an oval-shaped flag in MS Paint.
You know? The geographical entity. As once colonized by the British...
Why?If so, the sole use of the Tricolour is wholly inappropriate.
"its"Northern Ireland should have it's own team in the Golf World Cup.
And only one small problem with this 'scenario'...
Except it does. You just happen to disagree.
You have a crystal ball that says "Never", for infinity ?
And what happens when there's a united Ireland...
Except it incorporates the bast*rdized 'Red Hand' flag. Try it with the St.Patrick's Cross instead...
A nice flag for the various districts of your country, ditto our country, all in a funny-shaped ball design. Surely a banner for all egg-chasing fans to unite around?
Last edited by ArdeeBhoy; 06/01/2013 at 5:48 PM.
Except it's been hijacked by paranoia on both sides...
This.
Aye. It would seem his efforts are being rather ridiculed...
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/ne...-16255998.html
and
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/ne...-16257876.html
Quick question here folks. Just noticed that Will Keane's hype has seemingly died down, given that it was rather significant last year. On the other hand, Michael's profile has raised, coinciding with his switch of international allegiance to the country of his birth from the country of his father's.
Anyway, I bet this has been clarified further back in the thread but I can't find it. Can Michael Keane not now represent Ireland because he has used up his one switch, whereas Will can indeed play for Ireland, so long as he doesn't make a senior competitive appearance for England?
If Michael played competitively for the FAI and then player competitively for the FA (at any level), my understanding is that that would constitute using up his switch. I don't know if his appearances for either were in competitive fixtures, however.
You're correct about Will; he can still switch to the FAI so long as he doesn't represent the FA in a senior competitive fixture.
He made quite a few appearances for Ireland, so I'd hazard a guess that one of them was competitive.
It will be interesting to see if Will ends up playing for Ireland. If he fails to make the grade at Manchester United and moves on to a Championship or lesser PL side, then I could envisage him taking the opportunity of playing for Ireland, given that playing for England at senior level will be less of a likelihood. I'm merely speculating, but they are an interesting set of twins from an allegiance perspective.
No, it doesn't.
The Tricolour, as you well know, represents the Republic Of Ireland (styling itself "Ireland").
The Republic Of Ireland, as you well know, does not encompass the whole island (you know, the geographical entity) of Ireland.
Therefore, de facto, the Tricolour does not represent the island of Ireland.
You may disagree with these facts, but it makes them no less true
It is therefore wholly inappropriate for the Tricolour to solely represent any all island sporting body.
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
He played for us at under-17, under-18 and under-19 level, so I would imagine the same although can't find solid confirmation that any of the fixtures in which he played were competitive. According to Wiki, he's played five times for England at under-19 level, but not sure if any of those were competitive games either. He'd have to have played competitively for both associations in order to have effected a switch. If he's played for only one competitively as of yet - or neither, of course - the option of switching once would still be open to him.
Article 7 of Bunreacht na hÉireann outlines that the tricolour is the "national flag", which leaves things somewhat ambiguous as to what it officially represents. Ireland the state might end at the border but that's not to say the nation does.No, it doesn't.
The Tricolour, as you well know, represents the Republic Of Ireland (styling itself "Ireland").
The Republic Of Ireland, as you well know, does not encompass the whole island (you know, the geographical entity) of Ireland.
Therefore, de facto, the Tricolour does not represent the island of Ireland.
You may disagree with these facts, but it makes them no less true
It is therefore wholly inappropriate for the Tricolour to solely represent any all island sporting body.
Nice twist DI...it will probably make AB feel a wee bit better about the truth of the matter.Article 7 of Bunreacht na hÉireann outlines that the tricolour is the "national flag". Ireland the state might end at the border but that's not to say the nation does.
Two Nations share this lovely island of Ireland.
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
You mean one country. Just.
And part of another country, which doesn't really care in the main about the six counties they foolishly decided to leave colonized...
Please remember bar the odd sports team, the North never will or could be a 'country'.
It's even more economically unviable than the other 26 counties on the island...
As for the flag issue, thought you 'weren't responding to my posts' ?
But if the founding fathers of modern Ireland deemed it to represent the flag of the whole island, that's good enough for me.
Especially when a third of it represents your community...
Last edited by ArdeeBhoy; 06/01/2013 at 11:02 PM.
Trust me AB, the Tricolour of the Republic of Ireland does not represent many in "my" community.
Those well intended "forefathers" got it wrong.
Are you making it over to Doire for any of the United Kingdom City Of Culture celebrations this year...or are you just staying put on the Mainland?
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
Fair enough. It's that community's right to disagree or misguidedly reject it.
But even the most stubborn unionist/loyalist should realise the significance of part of that flag.
As for Doire, my priorities remain elsewhere. Though I do know an enlightened Coleraine fan and hope to pay a visit to there and the Brandywell at some point...
Yes, well intended indeed.
Sadly, some militant Republicans forgot the "significance" of "part of that flag".
Anyway, great to hear that you intend to visit the United Kingdom City Of Culture this year. Enjoy.
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
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