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    Being as audacious as question to Houghton and McGeady's motives for playing for Ireland and subsequently branding it as 'wrong' is fairly despicable. Referring to Ireland as 'England Reserves' is similarly despicable and completely ignorant towards the integral Irish-born players of recent years such as Given, Dunne, O'Shea, Keane and Duff.

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    The word 'diaspora' is a word Kenny cannot spell or understand.

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    Apparently if it wasnt for the "granny rule" Kris Commons wouldnt even be eligible to play international football. I stopped reading at that point........
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    Larne and Harlaand and Wolfe Welders legend offers his tuppence worth on a practically non-existent eligibility controversy. Let the frenzy assume!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BonnieShels View Post
    So after all of that gibberish he says this:

    "I believe you need to have an identity with the country your represent."


    If I could roll my eyes as much as I want to I would blind myself.
    Kenny in shock show of moral support for FAI internationals born in the North.

    How many times does Kenny contradict himself there? or perhaps the article conjoined a scattergun variety of thoughts on the matter.
    "I think the rule should be one generation not two and you should be born in that country or brought up there"
    If someone explained to Kenny what 1st generation meant in that context, what are the chances that he would understand?

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    Interview with the IFA's Geoff Wilson on McEleney and Bruce switching from the FAI to the IFA:
    http://www.goal.com/en-ie/news/3942/...-for-northern-

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    Nice to see the EPN get a mention there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlaskaFox View Post
    Interview with the IFA's Geoff Wilson on McEleney and Bruce switching from the FAI to the IFA:
    http://www.goal.com/en-ie/news/3942/...-for-northern-
    What's all this about?:

    “Shane McEleney is from Northern Ireland and we believe that if someone is born in the region of an association, they should play for that association,” Wilson told Goal.com.
    He obviously hasn't given that comment a great deal of thought...

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    Quote Originally Posted by EPN
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    “We do not want this to be political. I understand how it can be political, but the IFA do not want it to be political, because we are here for sport and sport has got to be the winner here, not politics.”
    Mother of Mary of all that is Holy.

    At least we got the obligatory mention of Football For All.

    Does anyone else get the same sense of déja vu with each of these awful articles on the issue that I do?
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    To be fair to the likes of NB, even they were pointing this out months, if not years ago...

    Certainly from before the CAS ruling.

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    "The IFA ultimately lost its court appeal in Lausanne due, in part, to a fundamental misunderstanding of the eligibility criteria"

    Whilst imo, the other part was that most everybody else did not share their misunderstanding,
    I wonder is their any other possible part that the IFA believe was in play, causing the IFA to lose its appeal to CAS?

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    The IFA misunderstood a few things.

    The IFA's fundamental misunderstanding was their belief that article 16 was to be applied to Kearns in respect of his eligibility to play for the FAI. They obviously misunderstood the wording of that article and felt that, because Kearns shared both Irish citizenship and British citizenship, he had one overall nationality (a combined, singular British-Irish nationality) that entitled him to represent both the IFA and the FAI. Of course, Irish citizenship and British citizenship are to be treated as two distinct entities. They do not combine to form a singular "shared nationality".

    As alternative grounds of appeal, however, the IFA also submitted:

    i) that based on the "1950 FIFA Ruling" and the alleged subsequent accord which arose between the two associations, the IFA and FAI had accepted to confine themselves to selecting players with a territorial connection to their respective areas of jurisdiction. CAS found no such accord to have existed whilst the IFA had also misunderstood the nature of FIFA's letters of instruction circa 1950 in relation to eligibility.

    ii) and; that Kearns had a shared nationality because, as an Irish national (irrespective of his British nationality), he could play for either IFA or FAI. They furthermore asserted that it had always been the case that the IFA could select Irish nationals with a territorial connection to Northern Ireland. Of course, this was mistaken as it is British citizenship, and not Irish citizenship, that is the prerequisite for eligibility to play for the IFA. Irish citizenship is derived from the territory of the FAI and not the IFA.

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    Shane McEleney is Irish, he just wants to play internationally to further his career. It cannot be more simple than that. His brother Patrick is almost 20 now so time is running out for him before he defaults for the same purpose. Should he make the move across the water or perform well for Derry I'd be fairly confident that he'll side with our under 21's.

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    Read in the Irish Sun today that Callum Morris has switched to the North

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    I wonder what Geoff Wilson would make of that...

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    No Shane McEleney in the NI 21 squad to play Macedonia this Friday. Derry have a league game the same night so that might be the reason for his exclusion or .....

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    Quote Originally Posted by ifk101 View Post
    No Shane McEleney in the NI 21 squad to play Macedonia this Friday. Derry have a league game the same night so that might be the reason for his exclusion or .....
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    Will you be welcoming him over or is he in the Alex Bruce camp?

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