QuoteThey'll probably wonder WTF Belfast has to do with Seoul, bin it and move on...Originally Posted by Not Brazil
Except that FIFA/CAS have already ruled on all of this and aren't likely to re-visit the whole scenario on the basis of the odd dissenting voice on what they would probably consider an obscure view anyway...
They'll probably wonder WTF Belfast has to do with Seoul, bin it and move on...
What NB proposes has nothing to do with FIFA or the CAS. It would be an internal IFA policy.
Wasn't sure where to post this, but it may lead to more tension among supporters.
http://www.independent.ie/national-n...e-3111510.html
So not the usual wittering on about players switching before a competitive cap then?
Not how I read it....
Is it a political gesture though, or a humanitarian one, or both even?
Some of the bitter cynicism towards this on OWC stunned me:
Usually I would automatically recognise this as a laudable gesture recognising the suffering influcted by evil men during some very dark days in our history, but when a sectarian rabble like the FAI are involved I cant help but be suspicicious.I cant say that I'm proud of thinking that way, but given some of their behaviour I cant help be suspicious either. I realise that there is nothing tangible in my suspicion either, apart from the fact that they take sectarian tensions in our country as a bonus to their organisation's welfare.Strange precedent for the FAI to set though.With the history of this place,every match they play is going to be the anniversary of something.If one were to take place on the anniversary of some IRA massacre and they are asked to commemorate the victims,they will have put themselves in a very interesting position.When I was at school, our history teacher mentioned a comment made by some politico along the lines of..."The English never remember, the Irish never forget".
FFS they're still slabbering about "800 years of English opression"If you were cynical,you could see this as just another "claim" on the territory and people of Northern Ireland.If the IFA decided to wear black armbands in memory of protestants killed in Cork in the 1920's ,it would be comparable.I extremely cynical and that's how I see it.Noble sentiments...yet, on the day of the game, we'll have Northern Ireland's name dragged through the mud, yet again, to a worldwide audience by a football association, the FAi, which has simply no regard to the damage it is doing within Northern Ireland.The FAI are entitled to remember whoever they wish. As Delaney stated though, all victims of the Troubles are being remembered via the gesture. NI fans might have issues with the FAI generally, but to make a deal out of this seems a bit off, especially as the FAI are obliging a request by the victims' families.Are we all assuming the dead were football fans and that they supported ROI?
NB proposes that a player is suppose to know who their life long partner is on the first few dates, before it gets serious.
The proposal allows for a separation and reconciliation with the first partner under certain circumstances, i.e. if 2nd partner gets quickly bored.
But If you have publicly dissed your first partner after you thought you found 'true love' with your 2nd partner, then there is no reconciliation with partner nr 1 under any circumstances.
If in the beginning you chose one, while proclaiming that the other was less attractive, you can't then come back to the jilted prospect and ask for forgiveness, after being kicked out on your ear by the glamourous partner.
Mail order relationships are okay up to any age. Foreign born who are looking for a steady house and home are welcomed regardless of what relationships they were in previous. NB doesn't mind, as long as any insult/disrespect by that player was directed at the foreign association.
Last edited by geysir; 18/05/2012 at 10:08 AM.
It pains me to agree with AB, but come on NB, you know full well there is no "South", you've had this pointed out many times, you know it yourself yet you still do it. WUMing or trolling methinks.
To be fair to NB, I habitually use "the south" or "down south" from time to time as well when referring to south of the border. I think it's just a northern thing. I'm pretty sure it's common in Derry at least. Although, whether or not NB has an agenda behind his usage is another issue entirely.
What an absolutely ridiculous analogy.
I believe at 18 years of age you should have some sense of national identity.
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
A lot of people refer to "the North" when they mean Northern Ireland.
Not sure if they have an agenda, or not.
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
Does knowing/sensing you have an Irish national identity preclude a NI born player from choosing to play for the IFA?
Afaia, even a player who has a strong sense of Irish national identity can still choose to play for the IFA.
Touché.
My mother's a Roscommon woman and even she uses "the south", although possibly moving up north did that to her.
Niall McGinn is a good example.
Multi-Quoting still not practiced by NB Shock!
Maybe he thinks it's a 'Southern' thing...
As for Nordies using the 'S'word, then they really ought to buy an atlas or ten...
Oops. Guilty of same re.MQ.
But it honestly doesn't pain you that much...
Of course it doesn't.
However, if his boyhood dream is to play for the South at senior International level, he should chase that dream from Under 19.
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
Getting your pants bunched about an acceptable colloquialism like that is real 'life's too short' territory. Same as I mentioned earlier about the lazy but perfectly understandable uses of 'Catholic/Protestant'. No surrender to the prescriptivists I say. Overly caring about who/what things are called got people killed not so long ago. Good riddance to that attitude.As for Nordies using the 'S'word, then they really ought to buy an atlas or ten...
You got to admit, though, it had style.
Ou-est le Centre George Pompidou?
Ah, boyhood dreams.
What would we do without them...
And a certain person's oneirology fixation.
Their whole 'argument' would be lost without them!
Boyhood dreams are an entirely different matter than what you stated
"I believe at 18 years of age you should have some sense of national identity"
I had boyhood dreams
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