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    Quote Originally Posted by DannyInvincible View Post
    Something I decided to write in response to being accused of supporting "football apartheid in Ireland" a while back as well as some other related issues that I felt were worth clarifying: "Football Apartheid in Ireland", Misrepresentation and Bogus Moralising.
    nicely put Danny as expected

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    Quote Originally Posted by DannyInvincible View Post
    Something I decided to write in response to being accused of supporting "football apartheid in Ireland" a while back as well as some other related issues that I felt were worth clarifying: "Football Apartheid in Ireland", Misrepresentation and Bogus Moralising.
    Well given the level of widespread ignorance across the web, think it could be a lifetime campaign to get it through to some of the fools still spouting nonsense elsewhere...

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    Using Twitter to debate and clarify player eligibility related issues, would have to be an unbearably restrictive process for a man of Danny's expressive nature.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DannyInvincible View Post
    Something I decided to write in response to being accused of supporting "football apartheid in Ireland" a while back as well as some other related issues that I felt were worth clarifying: "Football Apartheid in Ireland", Misrepresentation and Bogus Moralising.
    Another good article Danny, very nice style of writing.

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    The thing that gets me is that the press man or chairman (or whatever he actually is) of the AONISC felt the need to block you, essentially shielding himself from a view that is at odds with his own. I suppose blocking you makes the sand more comfortable for his head.
    End Apartheid Now! One Team in Ireland!

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    Eloquent and to the point as ever Danny.

    'Apartheid'. God save the drama queens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by geysir View Post
    Using Twitter to debate and clarify player eligibility related issues, would have to be an unbearably restrictive process for a man of Danny's expressive nature.
    Consider it therapy to help cure my unruly verbosity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Predator View Post
    The thing that gets me is that the press man or chairman (or whatever he actually is) of the AONISC felt the need to block you, essentially shielding himself from a view that is at odds with his own. I suppose blocking you makes the sand more comfortable for his head.

    To be fair, he's probably just representative of his, er, 'constituency'.

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    From OWC:

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    Quote Originally Posted by ItwasSammyMcNally
    What exactly is the IFA position? Are they still arguing with FIFA for a rule change/review or are they negotiating with the FAI to ensure that underage players are not picked/poached after they have been playing for Norn Iron underage
    Surely the latter approach is the most sensible - in that it is the most likely to work?
    Can't approach fifa again on issue until June.
    I wonder does that mean the IFA are planning on making a formal approach to FIFA on the matter again in June or is the above merely a reference to the next general meeting between the IFA and FIFA?

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    All the noise coming from the IFA seemed to indicate they considered the FIFA route dead. Maybe they want to petition for a general rule change, away from any specific Ireland issue.
    Ou-est le Centre George Pompidou?

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    For what would they petition? The re-introduction of an age cap on the right to switch association once? The removal of the right to switch altogether? The incorporation of the article 6 criteria into what is now article 5? Longer runways for pigs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DannyInvincible View Post
    For what would they petition? The re-introduction of an age cap on the right to switch association once? The removal of the right to switch altogether? The incorporation of the article 6 criteria into what is now article 5? Longer runways for pigs?
    I'd imagine it would be the age cap IF they were to do so but, as Bono says, the IFA work in mysterious ways. Just speculation, but I can't imagine even the IFA going back to FIFA for another round of one-sided litigation after the last disaster.
    Ou-est le Centre George Pompidou?

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    Ha ha, here's hoping...

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    Piece from the Belfast Telegraph on Brendan Rodgers featuring a few paragraphs on his son Anton potentially switching from the FAI to the IFA: http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sp...-16144660.html

    It is possible that Brendan's son Anton, attempting to carve out a career with Brighton, could play under O'Neill in the future.

    The Republic of Ireland have already shown an interest in Rodgers junior, who was born in England, and now Northern Ireland have made their move.

    “I've spoken to Gerry Armstrong and the Northern Ireland under-21 manager Stephen Robinson (pictured) about Anton and hopefully something can develop with that.

    “I'd be proud of that as my children have been brought up very much Northern Irish — but right now his main priority is to carve out a professional career.

    “Anton has played for Brighton in the FA Cup this season which was great. He's developing well at Brighton and enjoys being there and they like him. It's tough trying to be a football player but hopefully he'll keep plugging away. He's at a great place at Brighton. They are a club going forward.”

    If Anton shows his dad’s determination he will have a chance of forging a fine career.
    By the way, for anyone in the Dublin area, I co-wrote a piece on eligibility in the latest edition of the YBIG fanzine. It's free with the Dublin edition of today's Irish Daily Star and covers some issues that would have been discussed here a while back as it was originally written at the end of January/beginning of February in preparation for the Czech friendly but there was a delay in the fanzine eventually going to print. It'll also be viewable online from Wednesday.

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    Just a little thing here that people asked about before, stutts and osarusan i think, but anyway I recently met a trainee american solicitor/lawyer over here, whose great-grand parents were Irish. Her mother had an Irish passport, but she was unable to get one even though her mother has one, because it was her great-grandparents and not her grandparents. I asked are you sure about this(remembering on here there seemed to be some people fairly intent that you could), and she said she had exhausted every avenue, mainly because she wanted to come over and work here and that was her best way of doing it, but now she had to go through university to get a visa.

    She explained a whole lot more but thats the short hand of it. I automatically assumed any parent who had an Irish passport could then apply for their own children but it looks like it only stretches 3 generations of birth in Ireland. That seems a little unfair, but reasonable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paul_oshea View Post
    Just a little thing here that people asked about before, stutts and osarusan i think, but anyway I recently met a trainee american solicitor/lawyer over here, whose great-grand parents were Irish. Her mother had an Irish passport, but she was unable to get one even though her mother has one, because it was her great-grandparents and not her grandparents. I asked are you sure about this(remembering on here there seemed to be some people fairly intent that you could), and she said she had exhausted every avenue, mainly because she wanted to come over and work here and that was her best way of doing it, but now she had to go through university to get a visa.

    She explained a whole lot more but thats the short hand of it. I automatically assumed any parent who had an Irish passport could then apply for their own children but it looks like it only stretches 3 generations of birth in Ireland. That seems a little unfair, but reasonable.
    Some information on that here: http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en...r_descent.html

    If one of your grandparents is an Irish citizen but none of your parents was born in Ireland, you may become an Irish citizen. You will need to have your birth registered in the Foreign Births Register.

    If you are entitled to register, your Irish citizenship is effective from the date of registration. The Irish citizenship of successive generations may be maintained in this way by each generation ensuring their registration in the Foreign Births Register before the birth of the next generation.

    Since 1 July 1986, a person registered in the Foreign Births Entry Book after 1986 is deemed to be an Irish citizen only from the date of his/her entry in the Register and not from the date of birth. This means that children born to that person before his/her date of entry in the Register are not entitled to citizenship.

    People registered before July 1986 are deemed Irish citizens either from the date the original Irish Nationality and Citizenship Act came into force, that is, 17 July 1956, or their date of birth, whichever is later. Only children born after 17 July 1956 can claim citizenship in such cases.
    As far as I understand, her mother would had to have registered her own birth with the Foreign Births Register before the birth of her daughter. Presumably she didn't if her daughter is ineligible for Irish citizenship.

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    It was something like that DI, but it was more specifically to do with when her mothers grandparents being alive, they needed to do something.
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    Extract in the Times today from a forthcoming book on the history of Irish football.

    Issue of who should be called Ireland was contentious one
    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...314875875.html

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    The 28th issue of the YBIG fanzine went online last night and can be viewed here for anyone interested: http://www.ybig.ie/ybig-issue-28.4.30.fanzine.html

    The eligibility piece is on pages 13-14 of the online reader.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DannyInvincible View Post
    The 28th issue of the YBIG fanzine went online last night and can be viewed here for anyone interested: http://www.ybig.ie/ybig-issue-28.4.30.fanzine.html

    The eligibility piece is on pages 13-14 of the online reader.
    Probably one of the cheapest stunt that an unscrupulous rascal can pull, is to make public allegations of misconduct/impropriety which cannot be backed up, instead some sort of confidentiality is claimed.
    Imagine if you had priests running around making all sorts of wild accusations, 'yeah of course it's true says the priest, but I can't reveal my sources'.
    If a person can't provide the evidence, then he/she has to face public ridicule, especially when applied common sense takes a contrary position to the allegation.

    In this particular case of Gary Mac, he does not directly accuse the FAI.
    He slimed in with,
    "You do wonder what pressure was brought to bear on young players and their families by some elements when deciding their international future"

    For instance, he could have overheard such a wonderment being expressed out loud by any individual and decided that it was opportune to repeat it. And actually he does not add any substance to the wondering, except by innuendo.

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