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    Quote Originally Posted by DannyInvincible View Post
    The "umbrella" mention was a reference to those who would advocate trying to push or coerce the IFA and NI fans into a single island team against their wishes; not necessarily singling you out or anything in case you thought I was. If they don't want it, what can you do though other than trying to understand that, respecting it and letting them be?
    I agree with this.

    No need for a singular Ireland team....anybody born on the island can play for the FAI team, if they are so minded.

    Judging by the sectarian chants of Derry City fans at Windsor Park on Monday, I'm not sure all of the South's fans would want To be united anyway.

    The right of choice of those players who do not wish to play for the FAI team must be upheld and respected.

    No to a singular All UK team either.
    The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
    But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
    Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
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    Quote Originally Posted by Not Brazil View Post
    Judging by the sectarian chants of Derry City fans at Windsor Park on Monday, I'm not sure all of the South's fans would want To be united anyway.
    I was only able to watch a stream with poor enough image and sound quality. What was being sung?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DannyInvincible View Post
    I was only able to watch a stream with poor enough image and sound quality. What was being sung?
    I'm not going to pretend I was offended by it.

    I always have a wee chuckle when I see/hear Irish Tricolor waving folk chanting "dirty orange *******s".

    I also have the same chuckle when I see Ulster Banner waving folk giving off about "Fenian *******s". I wager most of them haven't a clue who the red hand symbolises.

    Apart from the bit of sectarianism, the Derry fans were great.

    By the way, do you know if the National Flag ban at The Brandy has been lifted?
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    No, it hasn't been lifted. The Derry City twitter people said something on the night about how they were disappointed to see tricolours at Windsor Park because you'd never see it in the Brandywell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Not Brazil View Post
    I'm not going to pretend I was offended by it.

    I always have a wee chuckle when I see/hear Irish Tricolor waving folk chanting "dirty orange *******s".

    I also have the same chuckle when I see Ulster Banner waving folk giving off about "Fenian *******s". I wager most of them haven't a clue who the red hand symbolises.
    Ha, indeed.

    By the way, do you know if the National Flag ban at The Brandy has been lifted?
    The National Flag as in the tricolour? :P

    I have no idea. I wouldn't imagine so, although I'm not sure the ban has always been applied consistently. I don't know if it's an actual ban on all national flags or just ones the club might deem contentious/unaffiliated to a particular team in certain circumstances. Maybe someone could clarify. I seem to recall one incident where the tricolour was removed from display after Sligo Rovers fans (I think) hung it on the barrier in front of them, but pretty sure I witnessed Shamrock Rovers fans displaying it on another occasion without any noticeable impediment at all. Maybe because they wear green and white? Or perhaps security weren't keen on interfering with a bunch of rowdy Rovers fans just off a 4-hour bus journey from Dublin... Why, you thinking of bringing your Union Jack to the return leg, hehe?

    What's the official Linfield/Windsor Park position on flags?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin View Post
    No, it hasn't been lifted. The Derry City twitter people said something on the night about how they were disappointed to see tricolours at Windsor Park because you'd never see it in the Brandywell.
    Was that fans or an official club tweet? When Derry are representing the League of Ireland against a team from another league, the tricolour has often appeared at away games, although I'm not denying that there might have been another or added motive for waving the tricolour at this particular fixture. For me, it's much ado about nothing, however. Faux-sensitive individuals purporting to be offended by the national flags concerned whilst mouthing off expletives are the primary problem and the need for bans is a pretty sad reflection on societal progress. Whatever happened to the notions of tolerance and respect?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DannyInvincible View Post


    The National Flag as in the tricolour? :P

    Why, you thinking of bringing your Union Jack to the return leg, hehe?

    What's the official Linfield/Windsor Park position on flags?
    I meant all National Flags - I thought they were banned at The Brandy.

    I'm boycotting the return leg, so the Union Flag can stay in storage.

    I'm sure some of those going to support the Blues will have their National Flag with them.

    The policy at Windsor is it's not an issue...National Flags are not banned.

    The National Flag of the United Kingdom is flown officially at Windsor all year, except for Northern Ireland matches.
    The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
    But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
    Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
    And this is what we sang...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DannyInvincible View Post
    I'm not denying that there might have been another or added motive for waving the tricolour at this particular fixture. For me, it's much ado about nothing, however.
    Absolutely correct.

    Derry City fans should be able to wave the Irish Tricolour wherever they want.

    Nowadays, the sight of Tricolours at Windsor Park is commonplace, and causes little or no offence to anyone.
    The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
    But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
    Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
    And this is what we sang...

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    The Scotsman reports that 'Scotland Under-21 defender Alex Pearce is to switch allegiances to the Irish national side'.
    He's eligible for Scotland, England and Ireland. I presume though he's always wanted to play for us, more than any other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Not Brazil View Post
    I meant all National Flags - I thought they were banned at The Brandy.
    I dunno what the exact nature of the ban is or even if there's some formal arrangement there in writing. Maybe it's just informal, as it were; based on "common sense". Not sure either if all national flags are banned or just flags the the club might construe as contentious. I couldn't imagine them tearing down something identical to an Austrian flag, for example.

    I'm boycotting the return leg, so the Union Flag can stay in storage.
    Why the boycott? You'll have to get over Derry poaching Patterson at some point!

    The policy at Windsor is it's not an issue...National Flags are not banned.
    Had been told they were the other day by a Linfield fan, but I didn't think it added up given the many national flags on display the other night.

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    Nowadays, the sight of Tricolours at Windsor Park is commonplace, and causes little or no offence to anyone.
    Soon, even the home fans will be waving them!


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    Quote Originally Posted by DannyInvincible View Post
    Was that fans or an official club tweet? When Derry are representing the League of Ireland against a team from another league, the tricolour has often appeared at away games, although I'm not denying that there might have been another or added motive for waving the tricolour at this particular fixture. For me, it's much ado about nothing, however. Faux-sensitive individuals purporting to be offended by the national flags concerned whilst mouthing off expletives are the primary problem and the need for bans is a pretty sad reflection on societal progress. Whatever happened to the notions of tolerance and respect?
    It was the official club twitter, not sure whether it's run by an employee or not but the club obviously trust them to represent the club. I think there are good reasons for keeping political symbols out of club fixtures like that. It's probably made easier by the fact Derry play 95% of their games against ROI opposition anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DannyInvincible View Post

    Why the boycott? You'll have to get over Derry poaching Patterson at some point!

    Had been told they were the other day by a Linfield fan, but I didn't think it added up given the many national flags on display the other night.
    I lost no sleep whatsoever when Patterson left us...although it's great for Derry City FC that they have another Northern Ireland international in their ranks.

    I'm boycotting because I refuse to put money directly into the coffers of Derry City FC.

    The Linfield fan you spoke with about flags is wrong. No issue at all with National Flags at Windsor Park.
    The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
    But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
    Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
    And this is what we sang...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Not Brazil View Post
    I lost no sleep whatsoever when Patterson left us...although it's great for Derry City FC that they have another Northern Ireland international in their ranks.

    I'm boycotting because I refuse to put money directly into the coffers of Derry City FC.
    How come, out of interest?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin View Post
    How come, out of interest?
    Financial reasons.
    The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
    But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
    Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
    And this is what we sang...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Not Brazil View Post
    Financial reasons.
    Yet more signs of non-investment west of the Bann....
    Ou-est le Centre George Pompidou?

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    Here's something I wrote in an attempt to explain why I think northern-born players are declaring for the FAI in current times in contrast to the times of, say, Martin O'Neill when there were no such instances of northerners declaring despite their eligibility to do so: http://backpagefootball.com/general/...tions-for-fai/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Not Brazil View Post
    I lost no sleep whatsoever when Patterson left us...although it's great for Derry City FC that they have another Northern Ireland international in their ranks.
    Aye, and great to see Patterson tweet McClean congratulating him on his Irish debut last week!

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    Patterson was included in an FAI youth squad to compete in European Championships before injury forced him to withdraw.
    End Apartheid Now! One Team in Ireland!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Not Brazil View Post
    Apart from the bit of sectarianism, the Derry fans were great.
    Edit:

    We'll apart from the bit of sectarianism and vandalisation, I thought they were great.

    I got a text earlier to tell me 20 seats were wrecked or damaged.

    Fair play to the Derry Chairman - he doesn't miss the door.

    http://www.derryjournal.com/sport/fo...lism-1-3608116
    The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
    But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
    Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
    And this is what we sang...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Predator View Post
    Patterson was included in an FAI youth squad to compete in European Championships before injury forced him to withdraw.
    Why did he not stick with the FAI?
    The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
    But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
    Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
    And this is what we sang...

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