You could do with some...Originally Posted by co. down green
DID YOU NOTICE A SIGN OUTSIDE MY HOUSE...?
Have had the pleasure of reading his work before...
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DID YOU NOTICE A SIGN OUTSIDE MY HOUSE...?
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You explained it better the second time. Which isn't saying much.
But no need to repeat it for the umpteenth time though.
But it's OK to take people from elsewhere?? Nice hypocrisy, yet again.
And still you don't get it.
From what smaller Association(s) do the IFA have the pick of all players in their underage setup?
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
If your underage player qualifys via a british passport and residency/education criteria they do not qualify under the current FIFA rules for the FAI
A "british passport" qualifies a player for nothing at all.
Do you know of any players in the IFA underage setup, born outside of Northern Ireland, who are eligible for Northern Ireland based on residency?
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
A british passport is one of the criteria which must be satsified which qualifys you for one of the 'home ' natons, further criteria have to be satisfied one of which to the best of my knowledge is 5 year residence or education . So in theory Joe bloggs born in Londan to English parents/grandparents who then move to NI for 5 years is eligible for NI. HE is not eligible for The FAI as he is not entitled to an Irish passport.
So your statement is incorrect, you may preface it with 'currently' if that is the case - i have no knowledge nor much care as to the NI underage set up.
for the record I personally and feel the first step should be from the player wouldnt have a problem with some sort of declaration at 18 as to international asperations as it is the age when 'we' are deemed adults and but the frankly holier than thou attitide from NI fans is amusing to say the least.
The FAI does not "have the pick of all players" in the IFA set up. That's sensationalist nonsense and you know it. Players simply have a choice as to what association team they'd rather represent, or as with all players, whether they'd rather represent none at all.
The point AB is making is that you find it acceptable for the IFA to use other underage set ups as so-called "breeding grounds". Whether those associations are smaller or larger is irrelevant to the principle.
End Apartheid Now! One Team in Ireland!
Incorrect.
Several players who do not have a British Passport play for the IFA representive teams - the IFA being a British Association.
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
That's reasonable.
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
Yes but they must be eligilbe for one , that was the point. as would be the english lad with english parent and english grandparent who becasue he went to school in Belfast for 5 years is eligible for NI. HE would not be eligble for ROI as he would not be eligible for an irish passport.
The passport issue is irrelevant.
Eligibility is determined by Nationality, not passports.
I'm unaware of any player representing Northern Ireland at underage level in my memory, being eligible only because of meeting the residency criteria.
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
How is the passport issue irrelevent - if you are not eliglbe for a British passport (whether you take it up or not is bye the bye) )you cannot play for NI - fact ? yes No ?
what about educationally ? Actually Dont know and dont particualily care TBH but it is feasible as it is for all the 'home nations' 5 years residence or 5 years education and bingo you can play for that association. In the case described the underage IFA player would not be eligible for the FAI. So all NI underage players in theory would not be available to the FAI
What is relevent is Nationality.
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
No mention of "educationally" in the Statutes.
On residency, the clause is:
"Has lived continuously for at least 5 years after reaching the age of 18 on the territory of the relevant Association"
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
I know its the BBc but
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...ls/8302195.stm
Jesus. This debate just doesnt stop does it.
The way I can see it, if you're born in NI you can play for an All-Ireland team or the Occupied 6 counties.
End bleedin of.
Last edited by Fixer82; 24/08/2011 at 2:20 PM.
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Yes, any player born in Northern Ireland can play for the FAI or the IFA's representaives sides, subject to the "switching" rules.The way I can see it, if you're born in NI you can play for an All-Ireland team or the Occupied 6 counties.
End bleedin of.
However, we can rest easy in the knowledge that if we ever cap an underage player for Northern Ireland who was born in England to English parents and with English grandparents, but was eligible because he received compulsory continous education in Northern Ireland, that he can't switch.
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
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