QuoteHeh, good luck to him. Would be surprised if it works out long-term though.
It's not the club or the players who're the problem in the main, but a substantial minority of their fans....
Heh, good luck to him. Would be surprised if it works out long-term though.
It's not the club or the players who're the problem in the main, but a substantial minority of their fans....
It wouldn't be TJ Vickerman's preposterous premise?Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy
I brought this sort of ignorance up with Danny. People outside of Ireland really don't know how the whole north/south thing works or how there came to be 2 jurisdictions on the island.
If you think about that comment, a lot of our grandparents', I would to say most, where born in the UK.
I hate this kind of ignorance. It's the kind of ignorance which requires an answer which will almost certainly bring in a load of jeery responses of 'you shouldn't bring politics into football!'
Hey, we didn't and never have - not our fault they spent history class playing with themselves...
Ou-est le Centre George Pompidou?
Even some of the things purporting to be fact in the article are ridiculous.
Someone just post the link to THE BLOG will Ye?
Yeah, but won't someone have to ascertain and certify it first? I can't see the IFA doing that given their opposition.
In what way is it "a nonsense as a general principle"?
Did dual nationality for Northern Irish born people not apply pre GFA?
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
Birth Certificate would be ample for verification.
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
Done. Danny's our official expert on these issues, but I went ahead and linked it. An official response from DI, however, would still be welcomed I'm sure
Ou-est le Centre George Pompidou?
No problem with the several past and present GAA players that have played/do play for my favourites, Linfield, from the fans.
A handy GAA player scored our winner in the recent Irish Cup Final.
The only recent problem was with some from one of our GAA player's "community" giving him some grief about signing for Linfield.
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
I reckon you've pretty much covered everything there. I'd only be repeating what you said.
I'll let you work it out....
Hmm. That would explain some who've I met who were gurning about "F*ckin' Taigs", playing for them. But maybe they were just having a bad day....
Are you saying Irish Americans are "a nonsense"?
What about the South's fans that were born in, for example, England - are they "a nonsense"?
French Canadians - "a nonsense"?
I suspect it is you who is struggling with the concept of Dual Nationality - not me.
I have yet to hear any Linfield fan I know - I go to most games - say anything of that nature. You must keep bad company.
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
Except wasn't talking about people born in the US or outside Ireland, but people from the island of Ireland. Though you knew that fine well.
And where's this mythical 'South' of which you speak?? Korea?
As for Linfield fans, am surethey're an upstanding bunch of Society and was being somewhat 'sarcastic'. Though what they say to complete strangers and their own are no doubt quite different.
Really?
"Mr Kearns has a dual nationality. He can choose to play for the IFA given his British passport and for the FAI given his Irish passport,without any added territorial connection. He would not have such an option if he held either British or the Irish nationality but not both"
Familiar?
"A nonsense"?
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
Yeah, a nonsense based on the GFA. Which I said yesterday, so what?
It hardly applies in the wider sense.
I asked you previously, but you didn't respond.
Was it, or was it not, the case that someone born Northern Ireland could enjoy dual nationality (British & Irish) prior to the GFA?
What "wider sense"?
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
Going back to the GAA player signing for Rangers...
That's interesting. There was mild surprise when one player, a goalkeeper (Alan Smith I think?), signed a couple of years ago. I wonder who the others are/if they're any use.“Rangers is full of lads who have played Gaelic: there are five in the squad that Aaron’s joining, three Dublin fellas and one from Omagh, and three or four of the Rangers scouts had Celtic tattoos on them,” said Michael.
Just came across this: http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/op...-14711799.html
It was a letter sent to the Belfast Telegraph by an Irish football fan from Belfast in March of 2010. Given that the Belfast Telegraph continually get the rules that apply to the situation so wrong, it would appear their writers didn't take much notice of it.
As a response to the dud claim of governmental interference or of those who support the right of northern-born Irish nationals to play for Ireland bringing politics into football, I found this somewhat facetious comment amusing:There has been much written on the Shane Duffy affair and his decision to declare for the Football Association of Ireland.
Reference keeps being made to FIFA Satute Article 16. Article 16 exists to deal with players whose nationality entitles them to play for more than one association on account of their nationality.
Most people seem to miss that Irish nationality does not give you this entitlement, therefore Article 16 does not apply.
Article 15 is quite clear: "Any person holding a permanent nationality that is not dependant on residence in a certain country is eligible to play for the representative teams of the Association of that country." It is on this basis that Shane Duffy is eligible, not that his father came from Donegal.
You know what I was wondering....since the partition of Ireland into 26/6 counties was not a democratic process, the creation of Northern Ireland by outside forces (UK) could technically constitute Government interference in football matters...there you have it, The IFA should disband, problem solved.
Well not quite. The IFA existed before the State. The FAI should disband.
Also the outside forces were of the UK government on the free state not on ni surely?
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