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    Quote Originally Posted by AlaskaFox View Post
    Fixed. Now they can have no complaints. Mwahaha.

    Also, OWC's admin never give my account the thumbsup a few months ago. What're they saying over there?
    Just took a quick look in (I usually would rather pull my own fingernails off...). Couldn't see any comment on it as yet but didn't hang around - that site is definitely NSFS (not safe for sanity).
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    Great stuff Danny. Now all we need is for Wilson and Gibson to actually turn up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlaskaFox View Post
    Fixed. Now they can have no complaints. Mwahaha.

    Also, OWC's admin never give my account the thumbsup a few months ago. What're they saying over there?
    Both of my two weren't approved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlaskaFox View Post
    Fixed. Now they can have no complaints. Mwahaha.

    Also, OWC's admin never give my account the thumbsup a few months ago. What're they saying over there?
    They probably don't bother with verifying new accounts at times when an an influx of Ireland fans/"beggars"/"trolls" might be likely given a recent FAI-related story breaking in the news or something. Username and IP address might also prove a red light. It's a very strict vetting process.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sullivinho View Post
    Are they having some kind of special retro term where everyone turns up at the forum in period clothing and opinion? Nige's compass-coherent 'North of Ireland' remarks must have gone down exceedingly well.
    Did you mean a certain season which started around 3 months ago?
    Period costumes are fairly popular, I believe.

    And good to see 'Agent Nigel' using the appropriate 'terms of reference'....

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    Quote Originally Posted by DannyInvincible View Post
    They probably don't bother with verifying new accounts at times when an an influx of Ireland fans/"beggars"/"trolls" might be likely given a recent FAI-related story breaking in the news or something. Username and IP address might also prove a red light. It's a very strict vetting process.

    Well maybe that 'Nazis' jibe stands after all....

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    DI's detailed, and well researched, analysis of the eligibility issue, stands in stark contrast to this pile of smouldering, bigoted, sectarian, ****e.

    http://tomasoflatharta.com/2011/06/1...t-in-the-room/
    The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
    But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
    Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
    And this is what we sang...

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    I like how he links to Danny's article as if Danny actually agrees with him.

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    ...and how in the same sentence as highlighting ROI fans' good reputation, he drops in the term "Prodestan".

    "Smouldering, bigoted, sectarian and ****e" doesn't do it justice NB. It's way worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuttgart88 View Post
    ...and how in the same sentence as highlighting ROI fans' good reputation, he drops in the term "Prodestan".

    "Smouldering, bigoted, sectarian and ****e" doesn't do it justice NB. It's way worse.
    Is there not some way the author can delete the comment with the link -I would hate for it to take anything away form the original blog


    It is so bad you would almost think it is 'black' propaganda
    Last edited by Newryrep; 16/06/2011 at 3:26 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paul_oshea View Post
    i think the or was her whole point.in that those with roi nationality wouldn't want/have/need British and vice versa....leanings
    My whole point is that, unlike the assertion made by the Minister, that those of us born in Northern Ireland do not have an "either, or" Nationality.

    People born in Northern Ireland are British Citizens - they can also be Citizens of the Republic of Ireland in addition, as of birthright, therefore having Dual Nationality.

    FIFA's eligibility rules are based on Nationality.

    That is not to be confused with how people choose to identify - either "British" or "Irish", or both.
    The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
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    Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
    And this is what we sang...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Not Brazil View Post
    My whole point is that, unlike the assertion made by the Minister, that those of us born in Northern Ireland do not have an "either, or" Nationality.

    People born in Northern Ireland are British Citizens - they can also be Citizens of the Republic of Ireland in addition, as of birthright, therefore having Dual Nationality.

    FIFA's eligibility rules are based on Nationality.

    That is not to be confused with how people choose to identify - either "British" or "Irish", or both.

    Now there's an explanation this sorely lacking amongst the general populace of OWC.

    My word though that's an absolute disgrace of a blog post. And from a socialist as well? Odd that.
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    Interesting article about player eligibility posted today on Wales Online.

    Issue between the WRU and the IRFU about two dual nationals.

    http://www.walesonline.co.uk/rugbyna...1466-28885563/

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    What an odd article. It has nothing to do with Faletau, except that he happened to be playing in the relevant game.

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    I'd say more what an odd headline...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Not Brazil View Post
    DI's detailed, and well researched, analysis of the eligibility issue, stands in stark contrast to this pile of smouldering, bigoted, sectarian, ****e.

    http://tomasoflatharta.com/2011/06/1...t-in-the-room/
    Yeah, spotted that in the comment beneath the piece on my own page and it reads somewhat like a conspiracy theory site. Neil Lennon's treatment and bullets addressed to Lennon intercepted in Mallusk seem to form crucial arguments, but to be fair, it can't be said that other nationalists playing for NI have shared Lennon's experiences of Windsor Park. Well, at least not in the modern day anyway. I don't know what it would have been like pre-Lennon. And isn't the Royal Mail's general sorting office for the UK based in Mallusk, so intercepting them there doesn't necessarily indicate their origin at all?

    I may respond to it as I notice a poster on OWC posted the two up at once as well, as if associated. Or would deleting it outright be the way to go? I'd rather strike down an argument in words rather than censor it, if you will. As GR has often pointed out, as long as the FAI can legitimately select players born anywhere on the island, it's somewhat disingenuous to complain about the lack of movement on an all-island team and to try and force the IFA into this. We pretty much have a de facto all-island team where those born north of the border who wish to play for us can play for us. I'd have faith that anyone with a half a brain should be able to distinguish between the two pieces as clearly separate.

    I'd also like to write a piece - much shorter, mind - on the eligibility of the likes of Adam Barton, because that's obviously something I haven't touched upon. I just wouldn't have any concrete words or evidence to back such a piece up, nor can I even say with 100 per cent certainty under which article such players would qualify; be it article 15 or article 17. I'd just be speculating really based on FIFA seemingly being OK with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DannyInvincible View Post
    Yeah, spotted that in the comment beneath the piece on my own page and it reads somewhat like a conspiracy theory site. .I may respond to it as I notice a poster on OWC posted the two up at once as well, as if associated. Or would deleting it outright be the way to go? I'd rather strike down an argument in words rather than censor it, if you will..
    first off congrats on the blog, but as i said earlier , the one in the comments section really is embarassing drivil and i fear you would be wasting your time trying to reason with him. Personally I would delete it, as he seems to be trying to link the two . I wouldnt give him the publicity

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    I've just clarified my own position there and will leave it at that rather than trying to reason. The implied association or agreement - "well-researched article on this subject is here..." - still exists on his own page so at least if people come across my own piece from there and think there's a link between the two pieces, I've left no room for such an assumption.

    Edit: I also meant to say cheers all for the supportive words. The response seems to have been overwhelmingly positive. Despite the length, it's clear that people are interested and thankful for the new ideas expressed. If anything, the response is an indictment of how poor media coverage and analysis of the issue has been to date. The length was an obvious worry but at least as more people read it, pick out the main points that mightn't have been aired already in the mainstream media and they're debated, they'll spread.

    Nobody on OWC has really had a major go at it yet. It's been described as "very interesting" and the response appears fairly mellow so far.
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    It probably appears mellow cos they have absolutely nothing to say against it as it is a wonderful treatise on the whole issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy View Post
    Did you mean a certain season which started around 3 months ago?
    Period costumes are fairly popular, I believe.

    And good to see 'Agent Nigel' using the appropriate 'terms of reference'....

    Will be in Armagh on Tuesday... will internet café it then...
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