QuoteMore trolling crap by Gather round.
Just ignore him lads.
I wouldn't say so. You said that many such players may not have met their grandparent. So unless you're now agreeing that it isn't at all likely and that you used the word may but didn't really mean it then I'm not sure what you're getting at.Originally Posted by Gather round
I must have missed that bit. The two main reasons that I can think of for someone not meeting their grandparent would be:You've no more idea than I do exactly how many of these family groups have actually met, and you've ignored my step-by-step logical explanation why they may not have.
- Grandparent died before the player was born
- Some kind of family dispute/scandal/adoption
both of which would be very unfortunate for the individual concerned, but I don't think it applies to too many players at all.
Think of it this way. It's the odds of not meeting a grandparent multiplied by the odds that that grandparent was born in a different country to all of the other grandparents, the parents and the player. It's a very small number of players. I'm still waiting for the first example of such a player.
More trolling crap by Gather round.
Just ignore him lads.
After all the faux outrage from Gerry Armstrong & the IFA U21 boss last week over Liam McAlinden opting to play for Ireland rather than the north, the same IFA U21 boss Stephen Robinson is directly quoted in a sunday paper today saying : "And i make no apology for saying if there any English born players in the Republic set-up, we will look at them. That is something we have to do. If an opportunity arises whereby we can benefit the other way round, then we would not be doing our jobs right to ignore it."
You couldn't make it up!
In their myopic, self-righteous and insular world your opinion would be deemed to be wrong!
What? Does he mean English born with a link to the 6 or any English born with links to any of the 32? There was that BBC report recently that said,
before it was corrected, possibly following the complaint from BonnieShels. Maybe NI are having second thoughts on the FIFA proposed deal that they rejected, although I'm not even sure if that would have applied in this case. Things are getting desperate up there in IFA central.They took advantage of a Fifa ruling that allows players from the island of Ireland to choose which national side they represent, provided they have not played for the other in a competitive senior international.
With the possible exception of NB, most of the North/IFA's 'supporters/apologists' have proved themselves singularly unable to grasp the implications of the GFA & CAS Ruling on selection criteria for their team.
It may not be their demise as NB says, but they do appear to be a team in decline. Though probably not terminal.
Stephen might be a little confused - it would only be worth his while looking at English born players in the Republic set up who have a Northern Irish Parent or Grandparent.
That might limit his search somewhat.
I find such statements and measures to be demeaning to International football.
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
Heh. Good point, well made...
Hence, er, Alex Bruce...
And his ilk.
You just couldn't be sure how the IFA interpret the statutes...
It's an interesting comment in its explicit admission of their preparedness to "poach" players born outside of the north, but also players actually active in the set-up of another association. Not that I have any issue with that; it's all above board. It's the hypocrisy of it and the positioning of themselves on some (very suspect) moral high-ground in relation to FAI activities that I find rich.
Last edited by DannyInvincible; 10/06/2013 at 10:07 AM.
You'd have thought they'd have a copy of the CAS Ruling lying about Windsor Avenue somewhere - then again....
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
Agreed. I have spent time on here arguing that taking players like Alex Bruce isn't the 'same thing' as they accuse the FAI of doing, but the quote above would suggest this (new?) approach is very much the same thing, and does leave them open to claims of hypocrisy.
Not forgetting...desperation.
Very sad really.
You'll excuse me if I don't terribly excited about about the prospect of some English lad, who has chosen to play for the FAI, being begged to come play for Northern Ireland.
Nah...that doesn't get my International football juices flowing one bit!
PS: I see the ROI have a Fans team going over to Lviv in Ukraine next week for the Annual "Eurofans" tournament...any of you lads on here going over?
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
I don't think it is a new approach, to be honest. They've always seemed happy to work, like any other association, within the rules as they are, but then have a moan when the FAI specifically do the exact same thing. Didn't Armstrong contact Connor Wickham, for example?
They have fallen so far off the deep end they've gone into orbit and will one day be visible with the naked eye.
IFA U21 manager Stephen Robinson "I will continue to spend part of my week at academies in England & Scotland meeting players and managers. We will hopefully benefit from young English ansd Scottish players who aren't getting a look-in in their own set-up's. Michael O'Neill is heavily involved at that level too, and has been with me several times to speak to young lads and their families. And i make no apology for saying if there any English born players in the Republic set-up, we will look at them. That is something we have to do. If an opportunity arises whereby we can benefit the other way round, then we would not be doing our jobs right to ignore it."
..before going supernova under the crushing weight of their own inconsequence.
“The one lad in the team who might end up playing for Ireland is the captain Cameron McGeehan. He has played for Northern Ireland but I think he might be interested in switching to us.”
See More: http://www.irishpost.co.uk/sport/kyle-callan-mcfadden
End Apartheid Now! One Team in Ireland!
Another article in that paper gives another angle to the complex issue of Irishness and ancestry!
http://www.irishpost.co.uk/news/seco...-claims-leader
I think it's fair to say we won't be seeing his kids in green anytime.
Those EDL lads sound like a great laugh...
From the same neck of the woods as one Kevin Patrick Foley. Funny how paths differ.
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