Eligibility Rules, Okay

**Sullivinho** · 15/08/2011, 2:07 PM

Originally Posted by Lionel Ritchie

He might want to hit the books for a bit for the new job..

The tricolour pencil is a nice touch.

**Predator** · 15/08/2011, 8:53 PM

Originally Posted by Not Brazil

There's another Northern Irish born kid at the Hoddle Academy, you might be interested in talking to though.

Who's that?

**paul_oshea** · 15/08/2011, 9:13 PM

Can someone tell me if there is any truth in the story about the flight back from the spain in 82 game where armstrong was supposed to have started singing when irish eyes are smiling and a whole fight erupted on the plane? I heard it from a good source but hadn't heard it before so wondered how true it is.

**gastric** · 15/08/2011, 9:57 PM

Originally Posted by Not Brazil

How is Morris eligible to play for Northern Ireland?

I don't see him as having been selected to represent any Northern Ireland representative team - nor do I ever envisage him obtaining a senior international cap for Northern Ireland.

There's another Northern Irish born kid at the Hoddle Academy, you might be interested in talking to though.

Usual NI crap! As you well know Brazil, we don't talk to players - they come on board because they feel alientaed from the NI team with its politics and sectaranism. To keep putting forward this paranoid argument that the FAI are somehow being underhand is old, boring and completely untrue.

**co. down green** · 15/08/2011, 10:12 PM

Originally Posted by Predator

Who's that?

Sean McCashin. Was with Notts Forest for a few years before being released and is currently at to the Hoddle academy.

He was with the Glentoran u16's before the move to Forest, he's from Antrim.

Was a useful Gaelic footballer and hurler at school

**Predator** · 15/08/2011, 10:25 PM

Originally Posted by co. down green

Sean McCashin. Was with Notts Forest for a few years before being released and is currently at to the Hoddle academy.

He was with the Glentoran u16's before the move to Forest, he's from Antrim.

I actually saw him play a few years ago. He didn't look too bad, but you can never judge a player on one performance.

**ArdeeBhoy** · 15/08/2011, 11:06 PM

Originally Posted by bwagner

in the star today its mentions Callum Morris (ex newcastle defender) as gone to the north. he didnt get a contract with Blyth spartans and is now with Glenn Hoddle ...big loss there lol

Down as having 4 caps for us (acc. to the PFA /UEFA sites), so suppose he could go to the North, but no mention of how, especially.

McCashin sounds more a more likely candidate, though no doubt someone will claim he's somehow 'retired' from international football.

Even though he's never played!

**Gather round** · 16/08/2011, 7:46 AM

Originally Posted by gastric

Usual NI crap! As you well know Brazil, we don't talk to players

Maybe you should? You might qualify more often. Do you think the players pick the team themselves?

they come on board because they feel alienated from the NI team with its politics and sectaranism

All international teams reflect politics- that's the whole point of international sport. If McClean and co were worried about sectarianism they probably wouldn't have hung around long enough to win numerous caps at U-21 and U-19.

To keep putting forward this paranoid argument that the FAI are somehow being underhand is old, boring and completely untrue.

It isn't paranoid, merely describes reality. The FAI are choosing players who've already turned out for NI. That's what annoys NI fans, regardless of whether the FAI are being underhand or not (I agree that they aren't).

If you're bored, don't read the thread.

**Not Brazil** · 16/08/2011, 8:04 AM

Originally Posted by gastric

Usual NI crap! As you well know Brazil, we don't talk to players - they come on board because they feel alientaed from the NI team with its politics and sectaranism.

Really?

I thought it was because it was their "boyhood dream" to play for the South?

**gastric** · 16/08/2011, 8:05 AM

Originally Posted by Gather round

Maybe you should? You might qualify more often. Do you think the players pick the team themselves?

All international teams reflect politics- that's the whole point of international sport. If McClean and co were worried about sectarianism they probably wouldn't have hung around long enough to win numerous caps at U-21 and U-19.

It isn't paranoid, merely describes reality. The FAI are choosing players who've already turned out for NI. That's what annoys NI fans, regardless of whether the FAI are being underhand or not (I agree that they aren't).

If you're bored, don't read the thread.

Another rant from an ignorant, frustrated and irrational NI fan. Maybe you should stick to the OWC site where myopic views are okay! It has been ascertained that the FAI have not stalked or targeted NI players. They choose the Irish team due to the failure of the North to stop the sectaranism and politics that continues to dominate your so called team. Your views gloss over the realities that anyone outside your little world can so easily see.

**Not Brazil** · 16/08/2011, 8:05 AM

Originally Posted by paul_oshea

Can someone tell me if there is any truth in the story about the flight back from the spain in 82 game where armstrong was supposed to have started singing when irish eyes are smiling and a whole fight erupted on the plane? I heard it from a good source but hadn't heard it before so wondered how true it is.

Nonsense.

Where would he have been flying back to after the Spain in 82 game?

**ArdeeBhoy** · 16/08/2011, 8:22 AM

Er, Heathrow?

Or Beal-feirste.

Edit to NB

Ok, from Valencia to Madrid?

Or maybe PR meant from the 'tournament', as opposed to the game...

**Not Brazil** · 16/08/2011, 8:26 AM

Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy

Er, Heathrow?

Or Beal-feirste

Er - they stayed in Spain after the Spain game, having qualified for the next group stage.

PS. I flew home immediately after the Spain game, and my Irish eyes were smiling - they were extremely bloodshot by the time I reached my local for 11.30AM opening the following morning.

**Not Brazil** · 16/08/2011, 8:27 AM

Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy

Down as having 4 caps for us (acc. to the PFA /UEFA sites), so suppose he could go to the North, but no mention of how, especially.

Does he have a Northern Irish born parent or grandparent?

**gastric** · 16/08/2011, 8:28 AM

Originally Posted by Not Brazil

Really?

I thought it was because it was their "boyhood dream" to play for the South?

Yes for once you are right. Young lads in NI start off wanting to represent their province, then in their early teens realise that due to sectaranism and politics, they really would be more comfortable representing a team which is far more welcoming - their boyhood dream is now to play for the Irish team.

**Gather round** · 16/08/2011, 8:31 AM

Originally Posted by gastric

Another rant from an ignorant, frustrated and irrational NI fan

Temper temper. Nothing I said was ranting, ignorant nor irrational. I'll admit to mild irritation,

Maybe you should stick to the OWC site where myopic views are okay!

Maybe you should throw a stick and see if it comes back, Aussie. Nothing I've said on the subject is myopic.

It has been ascertained that the FAI have not stalked or targeted NI players

Do you read what anyone else posts before going off on one? I said in my last post a few minutes ago that the FAI weren't underhand. Did you miss that, or just not understand it?

They choose the Irish team due to the failure of the North to stop the sectaranism and politics

They don't, generally. As NB says, they tend to claim they're fulfulling a boyhood dream (however odd that looks after numerous games for another international side). They don't blame the NI team for being sectarian. Perhaps they're just a bit better informed about it than you are?

that continues to dominate your so called team. Your views gloss over the realities that anyone outside your little world can so easily see

I've glossed over nothing, particularly on here. I mean, I've replied to others in some detail. Even bad-tempered wind-ups like you.

G'day.

**ArdeeBhoy** · 16/08/2011, 8:35 AM

Yawn alert.

**ifk101** · 16/08/2011, 8:41 AM

Originally Posted by Gather round

they tend to claim they're fulfulling a boyhood dream (however odd that looks after numerous games for another international side). They don't blame the NI team for being sectarian. Perhaps they're just a bit better informed about it than you are?

Why the use of the word "claim"? It really isn't that odd that they line out for the IFA. How else are they to alert the FAI of their abilities?

**Not Brazil** · 16/08/2011, 8:46 AM

Originally Posted by gastric

Yes for once you are right. Young lads in NI start off wanting to represent their province, then in their early teens realise that due to sectaranism and politics, they really would be more comfortable representing a team which is far more welcoming - their boyhood dream is now to play for the Irish team.

So, in summary, these lads' childhood dream is to represent Northern Ireland, but once they reach a certain age (not "early teens"), they decide the IFA are unwelcoming, and switch?

By "politics", do you mean the player's politics ie. they realise that their politics is that of an Irish Nationalist/Republican ie. not in keeping with representing a British Association, and a territory that forms a part of the United Kingdom?

**gastric** · 16/08/2011, 8:47 AM

Originally Posted by Gather round

Temper temper. Nothing I said was ranting, ignorant nor irrational. I'll admit to mild irritation,

Maybe you should throw a stick and see if it comes back, Aussie. Nothing I've said on the subject is myopic.

o you read what anyone else posts before going off on one? I said in my last post a few minutes ago that the FAI weren't underhand. Did you miss that, or just not understand it?

They don't, generally. As NB says, they tend to claim they're fulfulling a boyhood dream (however odd that looks after numerous games for another international side). They don't blame the NI team for being sectarian. Perhaps they're just a bit better informed about it than you are?

I've glossed over nothing, particularly on here. I mean, I've replied to others in some detail. Even bad-tempered wind-ups like you.

G'day.

And maybe you should stick to your bedsit with the picture of the queen on the wall, Brummie!