Eligibility Rules, Okay

**Not Brazil** · 12/08/2011, 12:02 PM

Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy

Except I answered them in the two previous posts....you are wrong about eligibility via residency and Irish citizens (including children) being allowed to take up citizenship of certain other countries.

So what, anyway?

No, you didn't.

Residency alone does not make you eligible to play for any international team - it is a prerequisite that you hold the Nationality of the country you wish to represent.

That is not "wrong".

I have not intimated at all that Irish Citizens are not able to take up Citizenship of "certain other countries".

You have failed to answer the question posed in that regard, preferring to revert to the standard "so what".

I'll ask for the third and final time:

What other countries can a kid born and resident in Dublin choose to represent (assuming his parents and grandparents are solely Irish Citizens)?

**ArdeeBhoy** · 12/08/2011, 12:06 PM

No you're wrong.
And learn to read!

**Not Brazil** · 12/08/2011, 12:16 PM

Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy

No you're wrong.
And learn to read!

I can read, thanks.

So, you believe that residency alone allows you to play international football, and "all football at that level a matter of 'choice".

Deary me.

**ArdeeBhoy** · 12/08/2011, 12:18 PM

No, but if you're deluded enough to believe that, it's up to you.

'Deary me'.

**Not Brazil** · 12/08/2011, 1:31 PM

Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy

No, but if you're deluded enough to believe that, it's up to you.

'Deary me'.

A cute edit of post 1107# this afternoon, mo chara.

You're beginning to get the hang of this eligibility thingy - small steps mind, but progress all the same.

Get back to me when you've found an answer to my question about the Dublin kid, and his choices.

PS. It's 5 years, not 6, after reaching the age of 18 on the territory of the relevant Association.

**ArdeeBhoy** · 12/08/2011, 2:20 PM

Except I've already answered it.

But for whatever reason you're choosing to ignore which is up to you.

**Not Brazil** · 12/08/2011, 2:33 PM

Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy

Except I've already answered it.

But for whatever reason you're choosing to ignore which is up to you.

Right - I've found your answer.

"Also there's nothing in most cases to stop people taking up citizenship of another country, as know Irish citizens who have dual citizenship which would then open up eligibility where applicable, eg. Australia, the US, Canada, S.Africa etc."

We'll try again.

Our subject is a Dublin born young player, who lives in Dublin, has never lived outside the island of Ireland, and does not intend moving to Australia, the US, Canada, S. Africa etc at this point in time.

His parents are solely Irish Citizens, as are his grandparents - all being born and bred in the Republic of Ireland, and resident there.

What choices has the kid got at International level?

If there's "nothing in most cases to stop people taking up citizenship of another country", can I take out Italian Citizenship?

**The Fly** · 12/08/2011, 2:42 PM

Originally Posted by Not Brazil

What choices has the kid got at International level?

Assuming the kid wants to play international football for another country, the only option he has is to emigrate upon reaching the age of 18 and live continuously for at least five years on the territory of the relevant Association.

Over to you AB.

**Wolfman** · 12/08/2011, 3:06 PM

It is I think what 'The Fly' says, which is common knowledge in sporting circles.
What is the controversy about that anyway?

**Not Brazil** · 12/08/2011, 3:18 PM

Originally Posted by The Fly

Assuming the kid wants to play international football for another country, the only option he has is to emigrate upon reaching the age of 18 and live continuously for at least five years on the territory of the relevant Association.

...and obtains the Nationality of the country he wants to represent - which, in many instances, is not guaranteed on account of continued residency.

That's you and me both "wrong", according to the Bhoy from Ardee, Mr Fly.

**Irwin3** · 12/08/2011, 3:26 PM

Originally Posted by Not Brazil

Our subject is a Dublin born young player, who lives in Dublin, has never lived outside the island of Ireland, and does not intend moving to Australia, the US, Canada, S. Africa etc at this point in time.

His parents are solely Irish Citizens, as are his grandparents - all being born and bred in the Republic of Ireland, and resident there.

What choices has the kid got at International level?

His choices are those countries he has permanent citizenship for.

Or, if he gains a new citizenship then he has to satisfy residency requirements.

I've maybe missed why both of you appear to be acting so obtusely.

**Not Brazil** · 12/08/2011, 3:39 PM

Originally Posted by Irwin3

His choices are those countries he has permanent citizenship for.

ie. in the case of our subject, he has no choice.

**SkStu** · 12/08/2011, 3:49 PM

Originally Posted by Not Brazil

ie. in the case of our subject, he has no choice.

yes he does. He can choose to play for the team he qualifies for or he can choose to not play.

**Not Brazil** · 12/08/2011, 4:01 PM

Originally Posted by SkStu

yes he does. He can choose to play for the team he qualifies for or he can choose to not play.

Hang on - it's me and AB being obtuse.

...But if he wishes to play international football, he has no choice other than to play for the one country he is eligible to play for.

**SkStu** · 12/08/2011, 4:11 PM

unless he is eligible or becomes eligible for another country due to some change beyond his control...

**The Fly** · 12/08/2011, 4:23 PM

Originally Posted by SkStu

unless he is eligible or becomes eligible for another country due to some change beyond his control...

We are now entering the twilight zone.....

**The Fly** · 12/08/2011, 4:24 PM

.....hello AB.

**BonnieShels** · 12/08/2011, 4:24 PM

Do not adjust your tv set.

**Not Brazil** · 12/08/2011, 4:28 PM

Originally Posted by SkStu

unless he is eligible or becomes eligible for another country due to some change beyond his control...

Have you not heard anything about the United Kingdom reclaiming the territory of the 26 Counties, and extending Citizenship to all it's people, from birth?