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    yeah but this thread is for "eligibility-type discussion".

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    It would still have been relevant to the lad though in his own thread surely. I suppose it depends on what you view as the purpose of a player thread; is it to discuss what he does during a specific 90 minutes once every weekend (so long as it's once he's moved on from the LOI ) to the exclusion of everything else he might do or provoke, or should transfer rumours, jokes and discussion about and related to his conduct be allowed?

    Anyway, we can agree to disagree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DannyInvincible View Post
    should transfer rumours, jokes and discussion about and related to his conduct be allowed?
    Yes!

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    Anyway, we can agree to disagree.
    I suppose...

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    Hmm, some people are just too sanctimonius for their own good...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy View Post
    Hmm, some people are just too sanctimonius for their own good...
    Good to get discussion back on Nigel at last. Nice one AB.

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    Not to mention pedantry.

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    okay, now you've lost me...

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    Bin this thread. All the discussion is about James McClean...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy View Post
    McGinn and McCourt for starters, despite the latter's goals v. the Faroes.
    As that recent photo showed, Chris Baird's not too keen on the pro-German dirge.
    McGinn certainly "didn't think twice" about representing Northern Ireland.

    I am unaware the Saint Patrick "thought twice" about playing for Northern Ireland - have you any links to prove your point?

    Chris may not like our National Anthem, but he sure loves playing for Northern Ireland - been told the South opened the door for him, but he told them "no thanks".
    The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
    But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
    Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
    And this is what we sang...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Not Brazil View Post
    McGinn certainly "didn't think twice" about representing Northern Ireland.
    How do you know? This is not zero sum - just because McGinn represents NI with honour and distinction, doesn't mean he might've chosen ROI if the door was open to him. Hypothetically both choices down on the table, it's almost certainly he'd choose ROI. Same goes for McCourt.

    But it doesn't actually matter, I'm sure you'd agree. Both players, as mentioned (and witnessed last night), play for NI with pride (and so they should). But the only difference between them, and McClean, is timing and opportunity. If McClean was capped eight months ago he'd be representing NI with just as much passion as the others. But it wouldn't negate the fact all three would play ROI ball if they had the chance.

    I'm not posting this to stir. It's just reality and I find it difficult to accept the antagonism to McClean when he simply did exactly what NI fans wanted - acted decisively on his future. The tide on eligibility is changing and players are more aware. That's a good thing. Yet it seems to me many NI fans refuse to acknowledge this reality and it's particularly strange since the NI McAttack so lauded last night could very, very easily have been another pair of McClean's.

    BTW - about time McCourt got a chance. Take it you still want Nigel out?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SwanVsDalton View Post
    I find it difficult to accept the antagonism to McClean when he simply did exactly what NI fans wanted - acted decisively on his future
    There might be a little less antagonism if he hadn't pulled out of the squad at the last minute after initially accepting the call up. You must realise this makes him look like a dick.

    The tide on eligibility is changing and players are more aware. That's a good thing
    It's a bad thing if players accept caps for NI junior sides, then effectively retire aged 18, 20 or whatever.

    Yet it seems to me many NI fans refuse to acknowledge this reality
    Almost all acknowledge it. You can't reasonably expect them/ us to welcome it.

    Take it you still want Nigel out?
    * it's a win, following one win in 19 matches

    * largely down to failure to take half the games seriously, or persuade 'senior' players to do so

    * succession of incoherent spats with players who then withdraw

    * eight caps wasted on a schoolboy

    So yes. Obviously he's unlilkely to go now. Should have been sacked after the Dublin Cup.

    We'll probably finish fourth with 12 or 13 points.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gather round View Post
    There might be a little less antagonism if he hadn't pulled out of the squad at the last minute after initially accepting the call up. You must realise this makes him look like a dick.
    Was it last minute? Nigel seemed very keen to avoid answering when McClean actually said no thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gather round View Post
    There might be a little less antagonism if he hadn't pulled out of the squad at the last minute after initially accepting the call up. You must realise this makes him look like a dick.
    He called Worthington three days after his call-up to declare his intention. Hardly last minute and doesn't indicated he accepted anything.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gather round View Post
    It's a bad thing if players accept caps for NI junior sides, then effectively retire aged 18, 20 or whatever.
    Awareness is increasing, it's a gradual improvement. It ain't gonna happen overnight.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gather round View Post
    Almost all acknowledge it. You can't reasonably expect them/ us to welcome it.
    Don't realistically expect you to welcome it and the antagonism has been very pronounced, so I'm not convinced on the acknowledgement.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gather round View Post
    * it's a win, following one win in 19 matches

    * largely down to failure to take half the games seriously, or persuade 'senior' players to do so

    * succession of incoherent spats with players who then withdraw

    * eight caps wasted on a schoolboy

    So yes. Obviously he's unlilkely to go now. Should have been sacked after the Dublin Cup.

    We'll probably finish fourth with 12 or 13 points.
    Thought as much. A decent win against the Faroes is hardly going to change the rest. If anything his continual ignoring of the Derry Pele was a sacking offence in itself. I'm not suggesting McCourt's necessarily going to make a huge difference against great teams, but he's got to be a better option than Warren Feeney and some of those other guys, as hard working as they are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SwanVsDalton View Post
    just because McGinn represents NI with honour and distinction, doesn't mean he might've chosen ROI if the door was open to him.

    But it doesn't actually matter, I'm sure you'd agree. Both players, as mentioned (and witnessed last night), play for NI with pride (and so they should).

    Take it you still want Nigel out?
    The (FAI's) door was always open to them.

    McGinn chose to play for Northern Ireland, because, in his own words, he "was born in Northern Ireland".

    McCourt & McGinn were both great last night.

    I take a less hostile approach with our Nige to most of our fans.

    He competitive record stacks up against that of the previous incumbent - who some get very misty eyed and deluded about.

    Still only one competitive defeat at Windsor under Nige's stewardship.
    The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
    But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
    Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
    And this is what we sang...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sullivinho View Post
    Getting dumped by Miss Ireland must do strange things to a man. Y'hear stories about her occasionally, your ex. How she got into an awful state with her new guy 'Steve' over in Cyprus. The road accident in San Marino - the two old ladies who died. He makes her call him 'the gaffer'. It makes your blood boil. You were her gaffer once. You know he's a bad influence on her but it don't change the fact she's moved on. Last you heard she'd hooked up with some wealthy old Italian dude. Two guys in a row with exotic accents...you feel inadequate. Someone mentions that he watches DVDs of them together. That dirty b@stard you think to yourself, as the boats pull into Tórshavn. She's not taking as many beatings these days but hell, that's small consolation.

    And then you happen to run into her plump, illegitimate cousin. She's got identity and abandonment issues. Some say she's trouble.

    But you think hmmm...

    I'd hit that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Not Brazil View Post
    McGinn certainly "didn't think twice" about representing Northern Ireland.

    I am unaware the Saint Patrick "thought twice" about playing for Northern Ireland - have you any links to prove your point?

    Chris may not like our National Anthem, but he sure loves playing for Northern Ireland - been told the South opened the door for him, but he told them "no thanks".
    See Swans post above. Little I would add to that. Except my pal from Doire who knows McCourt's family says it's rather more that that.
    But you're stuck with each other, now, so make the limited best of it.

    As for McGinn, what has Korea to do with anything??



    Quote Originally Posted by Gather round View Post
    There might be a little less antagonism if he hadn't pulled out of the squad at the last minute after initially accepting the call up. You must realise this makes him look like a dick.
    Except as other posters said he didn't. Add a diary to the atlas for the wishlist...

    It's a bad thing if players accept caps for NI junior sides, then effectively retire aged 18, 20 or whatever.
    Why? Isn't all football at that level a matter of 'choice'?
    Almost all acknowledge it. You can't reasonably expect them/ us to welcome it.
    But why not? Even the most gormless should be aware of the GFA/CAS Ruling by now....

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy View Post
    Except my pal from Doire who knows McCourt's family says it's rather more that that.
    But you're stuck with each other, now, so make the limited best of it.
    I don't think Patrick hesitated when he got the call up to the Tuaisceart Éireann senior squad in 2002?

    Perhaps you know different?
    The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
    But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
    Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
    And this is what we sang...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy View Post
    But why not? Even the most gormless should be aware of the GFA/CAS Ruling by now....
    What's the GFA got to do with it?

    Were people from Tuaisceart Éireann not entitled to Citizenship of the South before then?
    The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
    But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
    Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
    And this is what we sang...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy View Post
    Why? Isn't all football at that level a matter of 'choice'?
    Is it?

    Can my son play for Brazil?
    The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
    But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
    Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
    And this is what we sang...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Not Brazil View Post
    I don't think Patrick hesitated when he got the call up to the Tuaisceart Éireann senior squad in 2002?

    Perhaps you know different?
    Well I don't have a time machine, but know it was the case around a year ago, so what?

    Quote Originally Posted by Not Brazil View Post
    What's the GFA got to do with it?

    Were people from Tuaisceart Éireann not entitled to Citizenship of the South before then?
    Erm, unsure what your point is?
    Talking about numerous apologists in the North, who're completely ignorant even now eg. The BT, as you should know fine well from reading this thread??

    Quote Originally Posted by Not Brazil View Post
    Can my son play for Brazil?
    Not with that handle name...

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