Eligibility Rules, Okay

**geysir** · 07/07/2011, 3:11 PM

What's the "Eng.Indy version"?

**ArdeeBhoy** · 07/07/2011, 3:49 PM

See, er, link I posted....

**geysir** · 07/07/2011, 7:10 PM

Why would prefer that article from 9 years ago?
An indo report which states he qualifies through his grandfather as compared to a recent enough direct quote from the player, which is generally accepted as being true, that states his grandfather was at best 1/2 Irish.

**ArdeeBhoy** · 08/07/2011, 12:59 AM

Well as someone said up thread, "don't believe everything you read in the media".
Especially that from the M*rdoch stable.

**Charlie Darwin** · 08/07/2011, 1:04 AM

I'm fairly sure Kevin Nolan is not a News International title.

**DannyInvincible** · 08/07/2011, 1:30 AM

But what are the chances they hacked Nolan's voice box?

**Newryrep** · 08/07/2011, 9:23 AM

Danny any joy with the son of a granny rule query ?

**DannyInvincible** · 08/07/2011, 2:52 PM

Originally Posted by Newryrep

Danny any joy with the son of a granny rule query ?

With the FAI? Nah, I'd asked them about Adam Barton, but still nothing back. Anything regarding fourth generation players has been just guesswork or trying to work out the full scope of the rules.

**geysir** · 09/07/2011, 12:29 PM

What was the query regarding Adam Barton?
Perhaps we can make Mary's day and increase the scope of her duties and responsibilities by throwing a similar question her way, from different directions.

**DannyInvincible** · 09/07/2011, 1:01 PM

I was wondering if they would have been able to clarify whether he was eligible for us under article 15 or article 17 and whether FIFA's approach was to interpret the jurisdiction of NI as the FAI's territory as, to me, it would be a somewhat liberal approach, although you could certainly argue purposive.

How about we get Mary on for a live forum 'Q&A' session?

**DannyInvincible** · 09/07/2011, 6:48 PM

"Kenny Shiels slams IFA over defections to Republic": http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/14095366.stm

Former Northern Ireland Under-17 boss Kenny Shiels says the Irish Football Association could have done more to keep players born in NI who have opted to play for the Republic of Ireland.

"It's a shame that we've lost the likes of Daniel Kearns, Darron Gibson and Shane Duffy," said the Kilmarnock boss.

"We need more pastoral care, we need the people in charge to make these players feel welcome.

"We have English-born players coming in who aren't as good as homegrown ones."

Shiels cited midfielder Michael O'Connor as an example of a player whom he believes has not been given sufficient opportunities at senior international level.

"Michael has more quality than some of the players coming in, while others are playing for the Republic and I don't think it's right.

To be honest, I'm not so sure the IFA, just like Worthington, who gets similar flak, can do a huge deal more as regards the players concerned. I think, like the anthem and flag issue, it's somewhat of a red herring. What do NI fans here think?

Carrot caps were being thrown at Shane Duffy and I believe the IFA president at the time, Raymond Kennedy, even visited him personally to try and persuade him against switching, but the reality is that this was never going to dismantle his ultimate dream to play for Ireland.

**co. down green** · 09/07/2011, 7:31 PM

I posted this almost four years ago on Foot.ie from an article in the Sunday Life quoting Kenny Shiels on the Darron Gibson eligibility issue

The last man to coach Darron Gibson in Northern Ireland colours feels the Derry teenager will not be the last to go south of the border.

Kenny Shiels was in charge of the under-17 side when the Manchester United defender decided that his international career lay with the Republic.

Shiels though knew that from a young age, Gibson had his heart set on playing for the Republic.

"He enjoyed his time with us but he always wanted to play for the Republic," he explained.

**geysir** · 09/07/2011, 11:26 PM

"We need more pastoral care, we need the people in charge to make these players feel welcome."

These players, presumably those players who have a nationalist (feckless,shifty) background, need to be treated differently from the other players and they need special counselling to help them overcome their identity afflictions.

**SwanVsDalton** · 26/07/2011, 11:31 AM

Not sure where to put this but this seems the best place - James McClean called up into the NI squad for Euro quals.

Since McClean is almost certain to be heading cross-channel very soon, and Worthington's has so far displayed absolutely no evidence of acknowledging DCFC or their players exist, half of me sees this as an opportunistic carrot cap call-up.

Having said that, it is for the qualifiers (albeit against Faroe Islands) and Worthington could only ignore him (and others) for so long. Plus McClean well deserves it, so pleased for him. Even if it is about six months overdue.

**Charlie Darwin** · 26/07/2011, 2:07 PM

Alan Mannus has also been called up... a full four days after completing his transfer to St. Johnstone. It's hilariously predictable.

**SwanVsDalton** · 26/07/2011, 2:23 PM

Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin

Alan Mannus has also been called up... a full four days after completing his transfer to St. Johnstone. It's hilariously predictable.

Catch a load of these quotes from Mannus as well. Taken from RTE.

Originally Posted by Alan Mannus

Whenever I signed for Rovers and he spoke to me after that, he was sort of a bit disappointed with it and he was saying, 'well, it's done now, we'll deal with it.' Those were his exact words to me and I was wondering, 'Well, what does that mean?' So that sort of said to me that he wasn't too keen on it.

He wants players to be playing in England and Scotland. And then I'd played a few games here, say five or so, and I was back in the squad again and he said to me, 'Have you been playing?' and I said 'Yeah' and I thought: 'Should you not be aware if I've been playing or not if you have me in your squad?'

So I could tell just from the way he was going on that he wasn't too keen on players playing here.

Not sure if Mannus intends it, but totally damning on Worthington's attitude towards LOI/Irish based players, not to mention making him sound laughably amateurish - can't believe he asked Mannus if he was playing games.

**Dodge** · 26/07/2011, 2:45 PM

I think its even more amateurish of Worthington to not even know where he was playing...

**Predator** · 26/07/2011, 5:52 PM

Worthington had McClean in a Milk Cup U20 squad a few years back I believe. Amazing that he has taken this long to call him up. Coupled with Mannus' quotes, it says a lot about how he views the League of Ireland, especially when he's flat out calling up Irish League 'stars'.

**CraftyToePoke** · 26/07/2011, 6:06 PM

What I would now like to see happen is McClean reject the call up. But I suppose if that were on the cards, he wouldnt have been called up at all, although judging by Worthingtons quotes on other matters, that kind of prep might be totally beyond his regime.

**Predator** · 26/07/2011, 6:18 PM

True that. I wonder will Worthington even bother to watch any of the prestigious Dublin Super Cup. 7 Potential recruits in that squad (and I believe 21 year old CB Ryan McBride has been included too, so potentially 8). We could also have another poaching scandal on our hands.

Goalkeepers:
Ger Doherty (Derry City) (FAI)
Barry Murphy (Bohemians)
Defenders:
Owen Heary (Bohemians)
Simon Madden (Dundalk)
Daniel Lafferty (Derry City)
Danny Murphy (Cork City)
Stewart Greacen (Derry City)
Shane McEleney (Derry City) (FAI)

Colin Hawkins (Dundalk)
Aidan Price (Bohemians)
Ger O'Brien (Bohemians)
Midfielders:
Gareth McGlynn (Derry City)
Daniel Kearns (Dundalk) (FAI)

Stephen Mclaughlin (Derry City)
Barry Molloy (Derry City) (FAI?)

Dean Bennett (Dundalk)
Joe Gamble (Limerick FC)
Ruaidhri Higgins (Derry City)(FAI?)
James McLean (Derry City)
Forwards:
Daryl Kavanagh (St Patrick�s Athletic)
Eamon Zayed (Derry City)