QuoteThanks for the advice (which I've always agreed with)Originally Posted by cestlavie
Aren't you just wishing/ hoping that players like Gorman think like you? Listening to GSTQ for 30 seconds before each game may not be that big a deal to them
He was never picked by the Republic at underage level and so Northern Ireland called him up for I think it was for the Centenary Shield and they have picked him at all levels since. I'm sure he would have jumped at the chance to represent the Republic at the time. Michael O'Neill highly rates him and if it wasnt for injury he would have more than likely have went with the senior squad on their trip to South America earlier in the summer. Northern Ireland have been loyal to him and he has been loyal to the Northern Ireland set up. They are giving boys from their underage set up the chance to step up to the seniors. They have too. I know he played with Michael Duffy and it now looks like he is switching allegiance. Thats his choice. His dad is from Donegal too just like Shane Duffy. I do think that the Anthem is off putting to many of the players as they have no loyalty to somebody elses Anthem. They should get their own just like Scotland and Wales. I shouldnt be giving them good advice, lol.
The youth set up in the Republic was pretty much a joke under Packie Bonner and many potential players of the future were not looked after or developed properly. We can see that with the dearth of talent coming through. The new league of Ireland youth structure are a step in the rite direction as it is very difficult to make it overseas now and many potential players of the future for Ireland are wasting their time playing in the under 23 set up in England etc. Players are more likely to develop playing in the lower leagues or in league of Ireland clubs much better. Real football/Mens football.
Last edited by cestlavie; 08/09/2018 at 6:26 PM.
Thanks for the advice (which I've always agreed with)
Aren't you just wishing/ hoping that players like Gorman think like you? Listening to GSTQ for 30 seconds before each game may not be that big a deal to them
Probably doesn't bother much really given that it's less contentious for him as he's from Donegal, not any of the 6 counties.Thanks for the advice (which I've always agreed with)
Aren't you just wishing/ hoping that players like Gorman think like you? Listening to GSTQ for 30 seconds before each game may not be that big a deal to them
Except it clearly is to many, both potential fans and er, players...
And that's just some English people I know!!
I agree it is contentious to many. I'm commenting more on GR's use of the Gorman as an example. He's in a very unique situation as he has agreed to play for NI despite having little tangible link to NI or the identity. He knew what he was signing up for so I don't think he would be in a position to get upset over the anthem.
My reply was actually to the Great Rotund one, talking rubbish as usual.
I mentioned Gorman only in response to your previous point. Of course you're right, guys are more likely to move South from Derry than North from Donegal. He's eligible, we picked him. That's tangible enough for me.
We can argue ad nauseam about how many NI players are upset about GSTQ and to what extent. I'm suggesting simply that if they were that bothered they wouldn't be NI players (or in my own case, fans).
Not much comment from AB on the current affairs section. Has foot.ie joined your impressive portfolio of social media bans?
You know the rules AB, attack the post, not the poster.
If we had an All Ireland team (like in all other sports) we wouldnt be having this discussion. Cant see Boyce or Delaney giving up those UEFA perks. Them boys do like the goodtimes.
N. Ireland using GSTQ is a little sad TBH. For boys who just want to play football the Anthem wont put them all off but it certainly does not feel natural to them I'd say.
You have an AI team in this sport. You're daydreaming about a different team disappearing. Not happening short term
Nowt to do with either of them. There's a NI team because fans want. Not to provide a gravy train (most football admin is done for basic expenses at most btw)Cant see Boyce or Delaney giving up those UEFA perks. Them boys do like the goodtimes
Fine just ignore it, or pick your own dirge about fighting foreignersN. Ireland using GSTQ is a little sad TBH
You can't be sure how natural they think it is. You are just assuming others share your biasFor boys who just want to play football the Anthem wont put them all off but it certainly does not feel natural to them I'd say.
Except I've known GR for longer than some of your posters have been alive. As in 32 years.
Were you to meet him in person he would admit his 'Modus operandi' is to wind us (insert rude word about Irish people) as much as he can get away with...
Which is what he's doing here. Rehashing 'points' he's made hundreds of times before, in the hope of antagonising a response.
As ever he and apologists for him are indulging in #DoubleStandards.
The truth hurts, occasionally.
I think I've pulled
*unsubscribe*
No problem. He's old enough to know better though.
As for having 'pulled', in his case, excess PUDD is a million times more likely.
I'm genuinely touched by AB's fascination with my occasional posts on here
My 'modus operandi' is- as it always has been- to defend the modest record of NI and its football team. I almost always post in direct response to others, so hardly a constant wind-up. I'm one of a handful of NI fans here and couldn't distract the hundreds of your fans on the site even if I wanted to (I don't).
AB is right that the same points recur over and again (from many regular posters). Such as
* the NI team endures mainly to provide 'blazers' with junkets, rather than for its thousands of supporters
* anyone who is or might be from Nationalist background playing for it is at least bizarre, if not dishonest/ disloyal
* why would any fan of another team want to come on this forum? etc etc
In the most recent exchange, I suggested merely that a couple of other posters couldn't really speak authoritatively for various NI players' motives. I judge the players only by what they do, ie play. You'd have to be very over-sensitive to see that as a wind-up.
Good luck in Wroclaw btw
Last edited by Gather round; 11/09/2018 at 2:16 PM.
Hmm, revisionism of the highest order.
That and I know your real views, as do numerous mutual acquaintances. But no longer on here.
That's right, I killed and ate them.
You really are a tiresome troll.
Hypocrisy much...
Last edited by ArdeeBhoy; 11/09/2018 at 2:27 PM.
http://www.punditarena.com/football/...arthy-recruit/ this State's that mcguane can still play for us despite playing for us and England competitively underage.That is incorrect isn't it? Also puts forward Sean Morrison again??!!
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