QuoteExactly.
Exactly.
It really isn't though. There's no need to put that emphasis on it as it implies I want to impose my will or that I'm trying to impose some moral expectation. I fully acknowledge the duty is on those who want it to persuade you and NI fans; the duty isn't on you to conform. It would be a proposal; not an obligation. There's a fundamental conceptual difference. It wouldn't be coercion; it'd be consensual.Originally Posted by Gather round
Jesus lads, the Euros start in three days. Try to enjoy it.
There is no duty on you to try and persuade him and NI fans, other than the duty you've taken upon yourself.
D'accord mon ami. I wish everyone involved the best of luck and an enjoyable trip.
Alas, competing schedules in a big country with potentially chaotic transport means I will be unable to join you for petit dejeuner de gauffres.
Mon bel Ami M. Lupe d'Ardee has just alerted me to a must-see on BBC TV tonight. I checked in the paper and sure enough, they've given Thierry Henri his own show
Heh, I thought what I'd written was straightforward, but if that wasn't clear, that's more or less what I meant. If there is a duty to act, it necessarily or logically rests with the side that wants to achieve it. Obviously, if you wish to achieve something or set a target, a necessary or self-evident element (duty) of reaching that is actually striving to achieve it. In this instance, that would be a process of persuasion. Understanding this doesn't have to be difficult.
Last edited by DannyInvincible; 07/06/2016 at 5:08 PM.
He's lying of course. Wants us to lose every game!D'accord mon ami. I wish everyone involved the best of luck and an enjoyable trip.
Alas, competing schedules in a big country with potentially chaotic transport means I will be unable to join you for petit dejeuner de gauffres.
Mon bel Ami M. Lupe d'Ardee has just alerted me to a must-see on BBC TV tonight. I checked in the paper and sure enough, they've given Thierry Henri his own show
We may oblige?
As for La Cheat, nothing to do with him but Rather Rotund's impending obesity, 30+ years in the making...
Personally, I hope NI get hammered every game in the Euros which will make me happy. Maybe that will end the ongoing condescending and arrogant posts on here. Good on you Danny and your determination to get your message across.
Heh, cheers, gastric. We're only play-fighting really. (I think!)
I'd posted the following in the "potential eligible players" thread but it's relevant here too as it relates to the exemption mechanism and what finalises a switch of association:
Grealish is now irreversibly tied to England, I should have said, of course.
Now that's something.
I was checking through Leicester's squad last night and I came across Gökhan Inler and I was trying to think where I had heard his name before (Napoli) andyway looking at his wiki it seems he played for Swiss U21 then Turkey U21 then Swiss senior:
2005 Switzerland U21 Appearances: 3
2006 Turkey U21 App: 1
2006– Switzerland App: 89
If the Turkey U21 game was a friendly would that have not tied him?
(that game was in 2006, I've found that much, I'm off to bed now.)
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DID YOU NOTICE A SIGN OUTSIDE MY HOUSE...?
Wasn't sure where to put this, but this article is about Adrian Doherty, who I must confess I had never heard about before. A tragic story and while he represented NI at school boy level and U 17 level, by name, might have represented us at some stage. Reminds me a bit of Kevin Grogan's story, certainly another who was a loss to us. These stories fascinate me.
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/f...-a7067531.html
Edit: Was just reflecting on Grogan's career and found one of the most bizarre websites I have ever seen.
http://www.vipfaq.com/Kevin%20Grogan.html
Last edited by gastric; 08/06/2016 at 1:37 AM.
Talk about enjoyment, love this opinion piece by David McWilliams. I am sure GR, you will enjoy it too!D'accord mon ami. I wish everyone involved the best of luck and an enjoyable trip.
Alas, competing schedules in a big country with potentially chaotic transport means I will be unable to join you for petit dejeuner de gauffres.
Mon bel Ami M. Lupe d'Ardee has just alerted me to a must-see on BBC TV tonight. I checked in the paper and sure enough, they've given Thierry Henri his own show
http://www.independent.ie/opinion/co...-34781435.html
Nah, he wouldn't have had to have requested a switch to play in a non-FIFA sanctioned friendly. Michael O'Connor and Tony Kane did similar between the IFA, FAI and IFA again, if you recall. O'Connor was in our squad for a tournament known as the Madeira Cup whilst Kane actually played for us in that tournament (as well as in some other under-age friendlies). The Madeira Cup wouldn't have counted as FIFA competition. And sure didn't the FAI select and play two English players from Everton with no Irish heritage whatsoever a few years ago in at least one friendly? Jay Wallace and Gerard Kinsella were their names. So it's apparent that you can select whoever you like for friendlies, or for non-FIFA sanctioned games at least.
I'm not sure whether that translates into senior friendlies, mind. You'd have to assume not, as they count towards FIFA rankings, but I'm wondering what the punishment (if any) would be if you fielded an ineligible player in a senior friendly... Is there one?
Last edited by DannyInvincible; 08/06/2016 at 2:02 AM.
Eerie coincidence... If you'd been paying closer attention to EG's post/photo a few pages ago, you'd have spotted the young Doherty from Belldoo, Strabane in the NI schoolboys' starting line-up against Brazil at Windsor Park in 1988.
He's there on the far bottom-left to the immediate right of Brendan Rodgers (who is in full/dark tracksuit on his hunkers).Edit: I see now that Brendan does appear to have represented ROI Schools, somehow also managing to represent NI Schools, including here against Brazil:
Good piece that in the Independent though. A tragic story and end, indeed.
Last edited by DannyInvincible; 08/06/2016 at 2:25 AM.
As I said, I feel that that Turkey U21 game was a friendly. But I stated that I didn't know for sure.
In all probability it is. But until then...
DID YOU NOTICE A SIGN OUTSIDE MY HOUSE...?
http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...-34791994.html
Yes. I hope to learn more about Northern Irish culture and the way their citizens live. The food they eat, the clothes they wear, the language they speak. I want to learn more about July 12th when scores of Northern Irish children of every creed join hands, sing merry songs and concoct giant bonfires made of smiles and wonderment."Sport is so much more than entertainment. Sport brings us together and helps bridge cultural, linguistic or ethnic divides.
"This year, of course, we have two Irish teams participating, and we have the additional joy of supporting each other.
"It is my sincere hope that our teams' participation in Euro 2016 will be an occasion to strengthen the common bonds among all of us living on this island, and within the community of peoples we call Europe."
http://www.the42.ie/northern-ireland...87887-Jun2016/
Relevant article in light of what's been discussed here lately.
Last edited by TheOneWhoKnocks; 11/06/2016 at 1:27 PM.
Why do the BBC still think that birth south of the border qualifies a player to play for NI?
Can't spell Republic either.
I noticed that too when it appeared in my FB stream and thought I'll be barracked as a killjoy if I point it out. Technially they use an over arching term "can pick players from the south" which while being economical with fact would be correct in the event the 'southern' player had an ancestral connection that satisfied the relevant article (I'm sure you've forgotten more on this subject than I'll ever know). So they can't pick any old player they like from the south and their ability to pick any qualifying player from the south is no different from their ability to pick a qualifying player from any other part of the planet.
" I wish to God that someone would be able to block out the voices in my head for five minutes, the voices that scream, over and over again: "Why do they come to me to die?"
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