When you can find a cultural or socio-economic correlation between someone like Paul Green and someone like James McClean let me know.Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
both their grandmothers were born in ireland. both paul and james culturally wished to represent their country namely ireland.socio- economically they both are championship footballers on salaries greater than 500 thousand sterling a year making them both comfortably middle to upper class.
What's your point exactly? Is there some cultural/socio-economic correlation between Paddy McNair and James McClean that's missing from any connection between Paul Green and James McClean?
They're both ginger too. Which, you could say, is a cultural factor. But mainly it's just hair colour.
Ou-est le Centre George Pompidou?
Maybe they'll revoke the membership of RoI instead and he can look for a granny in Gibraltar or that disputed bit between Armenia and Azerbaijan.
I'd never previously heard of him tbh. Our U-21 squad is even more pants than usual at the moment.
Why would they do that? At least Ireland is a country, unlike the other three...two of which are never likely to be!!
'EnchantedLearning' ? More like retarded. Based on the Gibberish-Deutsch used.
And at least credit the source that was stolen from.
That said, would happy to be an offshoot of the current Deutsch, they have a healthy economy and mind set and the best beer...just get this qualification campaign out of the way.
Whereas the rump colonial outposts of Britain are destined to suck on its teat, in the main. Only Alba is a viable entity.
Doesn't look like he'll be heading our way, anytime soon...
https://www.facebook.com/OfficialIri...type=1&theater
If we want him, we'll get him. We're the all-powerful, evil FAI. We've compelled honest, god-fearing nordie boys to play for us against their will before and we'll do it again.
And if that doesn't work, then we can, of course, rely on murky community figures of a nationalist persuasion to do the business with the old tried-and-tested methods of abuse, intimidation and threats...
Last edited by DannyInvincible; 28/09/2014 at 9:53 PM.
I've an image of Delaney sitting in Abbotstown stroking a cat while the FAI's Stasi branch rolls out, clad, of course, in the dreaded and inconspicuous FAI jacket.
End Apartheid Now! One Team in Ireland!
Hehe, he was, and my first assertion was, of course, a careless oversight, but, even so, being born on the island of Ireland prior to 2005 didn't necessarily translate into the automatic conferral of Irish citizenship. The conferral of citizenship was only automatic prior to 2005 where the individual concerned was not entitled to the citizenship of any other country. As McNair is and always has been a British citizen, he remains merely entitled to Irish citizenship (considered effective from birth) if he so wishes to effect that right.I naively assumed that even somebody of GR's pedantry level would realise McNair was born before that constitutional amendment was made
At the time of McNair's birth, the 1956 Irish Nationality and Citizenship Act would have been in effect; under that legislation, it could seemingly have been argued that he was an automatic Irish citizen as citizenship was conferred to, as well as those born in the territory comprising of the Irish state, all those born anywhere on the island of Ireland before the 6th of December, 1922 and those born in Northern Ireland on or after that date to a parent who was an Irish citizen at the time of birth. Presumably, one of McNair's forebears somewhere down the line would have been born on the island pre-1922 and so would have been considered an automatic Irish citizen, in accordance with the 1956 act. If I interpret the legislation correctly and amn't overlooking anything, an immediate descendant, although born in the north, would have inherited Irish citizenship automatically, having been born to an Irish citizen, and, as they were an Irish citizen, they then would have passed it on to the subsequent generation, and so forth. However, even if such an interpretation is correct, that law no longer applies as it was superseded with retroactive effect by the post-Good Friday Agreement changes.
It was derived from Gaelic, certainly, but I don't believe it's of Irish origin. Otherwise, what you say is true. Indeed, James McClean's surname is also of Scots Gaelic origin.McNair's name is clearly of Gaelic Irish lineage.
Ballyclare, which has a tiny Catholic minority, is situated in the overwhelmingly unionist heartland of the Newtownabbey Borough Council area. 22 of the council's 25 local councillors elected in 2011 were either declared or default unionists. Second-guessing one's political identity based on such factors in isolation can be crude and imprecise, but, all things considered, what Fly stated in the Everton Irish thread is most likely true. Probably...
Sorry Danny, I meant Paddy was a name of Irish Gaelic origin
We wish!
And Daniel nails it, yet again. On any relative citizenship issue.
Perhaps that should be part of the 'package'?
Can we not just measure the distance between his eyes? That'll settle it once and for all.
DID YOU NOTICE A SIGN OUTSIDE MY HOUSE...?
You comedians should avoid wetting yourselves over this kid. He's made one EPL appearance. Like Albino McGivern or Jonny Gorman. More than Sean Saint Ledger though, IIRC.
Padraig's a Latin name. Both the snake-charmer and rookie defensive midfielder should qualify for Pax Romana on the great-great-great-Granny rule.
The only long distance relevant here is that between ManU's back four as they flounder to another beating.
BTW (and rising to the pedantry challenge above), Danny's surprisingly behind the times with his electoral analysis. That said, maybe the Nationalist parties might get a seat or two if they actually put up candidates?
I have an extended cousin who lives and works in Ballyclare. He's a Catholic, or at least was until his marriage a couple of years ago, at which point he took the path of least resistance under pressure from the mother-in-law. His Dad did the journey in reverse 30 years ago
Avid NI watchers on this forum will be waiting to see if PMN gets fast-tracked into the senior squad for the Faeroes game. Personally I'd try out big McCullough from Donny Rovers, who started last term playing alongside a guy from One Direction in the reserves...
Last edited by Gather round; 29/09/2014 at 5:45 AM.
Huh?
The Mancunian Plastics won at the weekend, luckily.
And Patrick is from 'Norman French'?
The Professor might ask himself what the French language developed from?
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