The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
Misplaced principles, me thinks
Always look on the bright side of life
Whose?
I was wondering yesterday about why people of Irish extraction in the UK tend to hold onto their Irish identity, whereas people of British, especially English, heritage in Ireland tend to become "more Irish than the Irish".
Granted, this is drawn purely from my personal experience of people I have met in both situations, and not from proper statistics or data.
I'm not naive enough to believe that it's because of some inherent overwhelming superiority of the Irish people and culture, although I wish it was!
Could it be because of the negative stigma associated with British identity in Ireland? Or maybe because people want to feel unique and special, or identify more with the underdog?
That's a difficult one. The former is down to complex social and cultural reasons, whilst the latter is an interesting theory. Probably more 'unproven' than the former.
Be interesting to see what the latest studies say on these issues.
Michael O'Neill is certainly persistent. This was in the paper the other day in relation to Paul George declining his advances:
Came across it here on Twitter, thanks to Tets.
Just saw this on Facebook; might be of interest for any London-based forum users: http://www.londonirishcentre.org/eve...ed-or-separate
15 years after the Good Friday Agreement reframed relations in these islands, what progress has been made towards a shared future between Britain and Ireland? And in this decade of commemorations, from the Ulster Covenant to the Easter Rising, how do we deal with our divided past? In an age where the world is available in your living room, how much do national identities matter? And what role does the Irish in Britain play?
Join us on Tuesday February 26th at 7:30 pm for a panel discussion on what it means to be British, Irish and both in 2013.
Panel includes:
Seán Doran is founder and Director of the Happy Days International Beckett Festival. He was previously the Artistic Director & Chief Executive of English National Opera, the first Irishman ever to lead one of England’s national arts companies. He is also a recipient of the Centenary Medal from the Australian Government in recognition of his directorship of the Perth Festival.
Margaret Ritchie MP, MP for South Down and Vice-Chair of the APPG on the Irish in Britain. Margaret is a former leader of the SDLP & Social Development Minister in the Northern Ireland Executive. She wore a poppy and attended a Remembrance Day service in Downpatrick in 2010, becoming the first leader of an Irish nationalist party to do so.
Peter Sheridan OBE, Chief Executive of Co-operation Ireland and a former Assistant Chief Constable of the Police Service of Northern Ireland. Peter was at one time the most senior Catholic officer in the Royal Ulster Constabulary.
Others to be confirmed.
Book your FREE place for this event by emailing info@londonirishcentre.org with the subject line ‘February 26th Booking”.
Gary dunne sent me that today.
I'm a bloke,I'm an ocker
And I really love your knockers,I'm a labourer by day,
I **** up all me pay,Watching footy on TV,
Just feed me more VB,Just pour my beer,And get my smokes, And go away
He should change his name to Danny Identity.
Britain and the Irish Republic have had a shared future for nearly a century. Like Belgium and Netherlands, Austria and Switzerland or any pair of countries with a shared border, language and other links.Originally Posted by London Irish Centre
(Alternatively, "What progress has been made on achieving a united Ireland?". Basically none)...
We can always ignore set-pieces like the the UC or ER anniversaries, hopefully all will pass peacefully.And in this decade of commemorations, from the Ulster Covenant to the Easter Rising, how do we deal with our divided past?
Maybe our politicians can quickly move on from intimidating flag protests and naming the kids' playground after gunmen. I'm less confident there.
Acknowledging let alone addressing all those affected by the Troubles, more difficult still.
Less than they did when almost everyone Worldwide can support Barcelona and watch the Simpsons. But still a lot.In an age where the world is available in your living room, how much do national identities matter?
One less distinctive than before, largely for the reason above. But also because there's less systematic prejudice and mistrust than during the Troubles and the 'No Irish' era before that.And what role does the Irish in Britain play?
For some us, much as it always hasa panel discussion on what it means to be British, Irish and both in 2013![]()
Whether it was appropriate for Danny to publicise that event here is another matter, but I'm pretty sure he posted it for informative purposes and not as a topic for debate.
There is a thread in Current Affairs started by Bonnie, where you can take this type of reply to.
Which not all of us can read/post in.
Or laugh at GR's continued paranoia...
As to opposed to what point, exactly, not withstanding the failure to address the one made above.
Plus the usual self-righteous waffle not saying anything at all...
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