Had to laugh at that one.Originally Posted by Not Brazil
That's correct - some ignorant ROI fans thought he was from a "unionist background" because he played for Linfield.
It's from the same ignorant school of thought that David Healy* was getting sectarian abuse because he is a "Catholic".
*Of course, he must be - with a name like that!
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
Wasn't it the Belfast Telegraph who were describing it as "ironic" and one chap on Politics.ie who suggested he might be from a unionist background because of this?That's correct - some ignorant ROI fans thought he was from a "unionist background" because he played for Linfield.
Yea the Belfast Telegraph called it out as ironic which was quite confusing.
I've never viewed Politics.ie. I read the comments of a ROI fan on another message board.
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
Ignorant Belfast Telegraph reporters shine once again.
End Apartheid Now! One Team in Ireland!
Are you sure about the Daniel Devine 'abuse' thing? Like said elsewhere, would always go based on the name!
And with DH, it was actually to do with his da, a self-proclaimed Rangers fan, based on people who knew him from Downpatrick, as I recall.
And you should read Politics.ie , NB.
Speaking of "ignorant schools of thought" I always felt that ROI fans booing Rangers players was not sectarian. Nobody was booing anyone on basis of religion. That would be disgraceful.
They were booing because (a) many ROI fans wrongly felt that being a Celtic fan and a ROI fan were more or less the same thing, but also and more importantly (b) playing for a very dodgy institution whose fans are openly and vocally anti-Irish isn't exactly likely to endear you to, eh, the Irish. Sadly the Joe Duffys of the airwaves didn't quite get that.
I'm glad the booing is gone though.
I don't think there was any abuse, unless I missed that. Just a few people foolishly assuming he might have been from a unionist background because he played with Linfield and had interest from Rangers and the Belfast Telegraph strangely considering it ironic that he would declare for Ireland in light of this.
I remember watching the 82 and 86 world cups with envy, partly because I thought we had at least as good a squad at the time but mainly because NI had achieved what we seemed unable to at the time. I had no idea at the time what backgrounds any of the players were from (or interest) and still dont. It seemed to bring people up there together briefly. I'm not sure what to make of all these players declaring for us as, to me, international football should be about representing your family, friends, community and people you grew up around. Leaving politics aside, it seems a shame that these lads are not playing for the team that supposidly represents their local communities. It would however be good if our underage system was producing players like Gibson, Duffy and Ferguson because we dont seem to have produced any players coming through at premiership level for a while.
International football is about representing family, friends, community and people one grew up around. Leaving politics aside, there is a community in the north that identifies culturally not as British, Northern Irish or whatever, but as Irish; as much a part and parcel of the Irish nation as their fellow compatriots south the border. The Ulster Banner and 'God Save the Queen' are not symbols venerated by this community; rather, you'll find Irish tricolours to be the flag of choice. As Seamus Heaney wrote in objection to his inclusion in the 1982 Penguin Book of Contemporary British Poetry:
"Don't be surprised if I demur, for, be advised
My passport's green.
No glass of ours was ever raised
To toast The Queen."
You would have thought, given your much larger selection pool that your youth system would be producing plenty of quality players.
I wonder if he'll update that after Dublin Castle?
He was sitting at the same table and all.I wonder if he'll update that after Dublin Castle?
What "abuse thing" of Daniel Devine are you on about?Are you sure about the Daniel Devine 'abuse' thing? Like said elsewhere, would always go based on the name!
And with DH, it was actually to do with his da, a self-proclaimed Rangers fan, based on people who knew him from Downpatrick, as I recall.
What's to do with David Healy's "da"? We all know he's a Rangers fan. He's a Linfield fan too (as is David Healy) - what's your point?
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
We'll see if it's gone on Tuesday night.
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
As implied by others up thread, NB, including you! #339 as a start & #341.
What was "implied" be myself and others up thread?
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
Was replying to #354;leave you to work that one out.....
Unless of course your question(s) were rhetorical??
No problem - those who want to play under the Tricolour amd stand to Amhrán na bhFiann can do so. They are not symbols that are venerated by the British Irish community.
There is, I agree, a case for the IFA ditching the Ulster Banner, and using the "Official" Flag of Northern Ireland instead.
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
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