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    Quote Originally Posted by SwanVsDalton View Post
    I got slightly mixed up in my thinking - Sam had named McClean, McAllister hadn't. Having said that the temptation to presume the allegations relate to McClean is very strong since he's the current eligibility poster boy. Regardless I was referring solely to McClean.
    My inclination would be to think that any source would be a player(s) from a "nationalist background", who has (have) NOT made a switch to the South, and is (are) intent on continuing to play for Northern Ireland.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Not Brazil View Post
    The IFA have not been "sniffing round anybody and everybody".

    They have been seeking out players that are eligible to play for Northern Ireland - this, by definition, means British Citizens otherwise eligible to play for Northern Ireland, as per FIFA Statutes.
    If you say so....

    The evidence appears otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy View Post
    The evidence appears otherwise.
    Does it?

    What evidence?
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    Look at all the players they've scratched around for over the years. It's your team. Find it out yourself!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy View Post
    Look at all the players they've scratched around for over the years. It's your team. Find it out yourself!
    Yip...all British Citizens, whom the IFA had reason to believe were eligible to play for Northern Ireland, in accordance with the FIFA Statutes.

    I'm unaware of the IFA approaching any player who wasn't a British Citizen...are you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Not Brazil View Post
    Yip...all British Citizens, whom the IFA had reason to believe were eligible to play for Northern Ireland, in accordance with the FIFA Statutes.

    I'm unaware of the IFA approaching any player who wasn't a British Citizen...are you?
    ArdeeBhoy, I think you are fighting a losing battle here. Accusing the IFA of stretching the eligibility rules, coming from a devotee of the FAI, is calling the kettle black.

    That being said. This is an equally applicable quote
    Quote Originally Posted by Any Foot.ie Member View Post
    Yip...all Irish Citizens, whom the FAI had reason to believe were eligible to play for Republic of Ireland, in accordance with the FIFA Statutes.

    I'm unaware of the FAI approaching any player who wasn't an Irish Citizen...are you?


    Edit:AB, that's twice in quick succession, I've appeared to correct/comment in response to you. Sorry
    Nothing personal, but I will say that you are noticably antagonistic when talking to NB, EG or GR but more power to you, I quite enjoy your comments. Usually informed(if a little biased )
    Last edited by Closed Account; 04/02/2012 at 10:47 AM.

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    It would be quite thick of the IFA to be harrying players who were not British nationals.

    The obvious point NB is, that no association has the sole right to contact a dual national player about their intentions.
    The FAI are quite within their rights to contact a player who is eligible to play for the FAI.
    But for the IFA to pester a player who has openly declared his affiliation to the FAI, not just once but on a number of occasions, is a bizarre open display of arrogance. And notwithstanding those openly declared intentions, promise to contact him again -- just in case.

    To some people, it is beyond their realms of reason that McClean is not what he appears to be (a lad built like a brick shíthouse, with a mind of steel), but rather a young impressionable lad with his will broken down by resolute 'love bombing' by a team of FAI recruiters and hired experts possibly from a thought to be defunct branch of Vatican Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith (the inquisition).
    And all this resulted in what we can only describe as a successful 'Stepford' process where the player then (with a vacant stare) states to the world with monotone speech, that now his heart is with the FAI.
    Last edited by geysir; 04/02/2012 at 11:04 AM.

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    Fair enough JD, hopefully have reiterated my point, albeit rather clumsily?

    Quote Originally Posted by Not Brazil View Post
    Yip...all British Citizens, whom the IFA had reason to believe were eligible to play for Northern Ireland, in accordance with the FIFA Statutes.

    I'm unaware of the IFA approaching any player who wasn't a British Citizen...are you?

    Except you want to be careful if you want to be part of Britain's self-appointed 'master race' as they hand out passports to just about everyone.
    Including plenty who have dual nationality (they weren't born there) and are all eligible for all their four 'teams'...

    That's who the IFA (& Wales/Scotland) have scratched around for in the past. Even 'Ingerland' on occasion.
    It's how Maik Taylor 'qualified', FFS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy View Post
    Except you want to be careful if you want to be part of Britain's self-appointed 'master race' as they hand out passports to just about everyone.
    Including plenty who have dual nationality (they weren't born there) and are all eligible for all their four 'teams'...

    That's who the IFA (& Wales/Scotland) have scratched around for in the past. Even 'Ingerland' on occasion.

    It's how Maik Taylor 'qualified', FFS.
    Anyone born outside of Northern Ireland, holding British Citizenship, would need to meet the eligibility criterion laid out in FIFA Eligibility Statutes 6 or 7.

    I would remind you, again, that whilst British Citizenship is a prerequisite to play for Northern Ireland, holding a British Passport is not.

    Maik Taylor would not be eligible to play for Northern Ireland under the current eligibility rules.

    You really need to brush up on your research.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy View Post
    It's how Maik Taylor 'qualified', FFS.
    And Dele Adebola!

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    Quote Originally Posted by geysir View Post
    But for the IFA to pester a player who has openly declared his affiliation to the FAI, not just once but on a number of occasions, is a bizarre open display of arrogance. And notwithstanding those openly declared intentions, promise to contact him again -- just in case.
    You're preaching to the converted on that issue, although I don't think it was a display of arrogance.

    I cringed when I heard of the approaches made to those who have indicated their desire to play for the South.
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    Hang on, you keep wittering on about a country called 'The South'.
    Where's your research?
    Lol.

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    The Sunday Life twitter page just said:

    Only in Sunday Life: After Robinson's attendance at a GAA match, will Sinn Fein now go the extra mile and support the IFA in FAI row? #GAWA


    Dear oh dear.
    End Apartheid Now! One Team in Ireland!

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    I reckon they will. Everything about Martin McGuinness's presidential campaign just screamed ​our wee country.

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    #cliffhanger!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Predator View Post
    The Sunday Life twitter page just said:

    Only in Sunday Life: After Robinson's attendance at a GAA match, will Sinn Fein now go the extra mile and support the IFA in FAI row? #GAWA


    Dear oh dear.
    Paul Ferguson has a two page spread on that theme in the Sunday Life today.

    I think he's now completely lost the plot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy View Post
    Hang on, you keep wittering on about a country called 'The South'.
    Where's your research?
    Lol.
    Marc Wilson.

    He's quoted by Ciaran O'Raghallaigh in the Sunday Life today:

    "Growing up I always wanted to play for the south. My family have always supported the south, and it has been my ambition since I was a kid. The same as Darron. And I haven't done anything wrong in declaring for the south".

    Lol.
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    Well, you're as ignorant as each other then.
    Last edited by ArdeeBhoy; 05/02/2012 at 4:32 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Not Brazil View Post
    Marc Wilson.

    He's quoted by Ciaran O'Raghallaigh in the Sunday Life today:

    "Growing up I always wanted to play for the south. My family have always supported the south, and it has been my ambition since I was a kid. The same as Darron. And I haven't done anything wrong in declaring for the south".

    Lol.
    I can't blame poor Wilson for using such terminology really, seeing as he may have been offered a loaded question. I'd suspect that the editor (Ferguson), might have had the final say there. Pure conjecture though, obviously.

    Quote Originally Posted by Not Brazil View Post
    Paul Ferguson has a two page spread on that theme in the Sunday Life today.

    I think he's now completely lost the plot.
    Would there be any chance that you could scan a copy of it up here? I'm not in a position to access the SL at the moment. 2 pages - there must be something worthy of consideration.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Predator View Post
    I can't blame poor Wilson for using such terminology really, seeing as he may have been offered a loaded question. I'd suspect that the editor (Ferguson), might have had the final say there. Pure conjecture though, obviously.

    Would there be any chance that you could scan a copy of it up here? I'm not in a position to access the SL at the moment. 2 pages - there must be something worthy of consideration.
    The piece which quoted Wilson by O'Raghallaigh was headed The Eligibility Row View From The Republic - Republic enjoys support from all over Ireland.

    I don't have access to a scanner at the moment.

    Ferguson's piece is poor - in keeping with tradition.
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