QuoteCheers. I'm surprised that I missed that. I wonder who advised her to raise FIFA's eligibility rules (it is not an "eligibility issue" - that would suggest that it's ongoing, but we've gained closure)?Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
Fine.
Clearly though, research, is not a strong local attribute. Well in one part of the community!
Wouldn't that say, be pretty much anyone born on the island under the GFA?
And the IFA's determination to, er, widen their search...
Cheers. I'm surprised that I missed that. I wonder who advised her to raise FIFA's eligibility rules (it is not an "eligibility issue" - that would suggest that it's ongoing, but we've gained closure)?
End Apartheid Now! One Team in Ireland!
Sure.
Injustice, immoral, integrity ..... these are words your friend Gary scribbles in his demands of others. I'd urge your friend Gary to follow his own example and do right by his position.
No, it would not be "pretty much anyone born on the island under the GFA."Fine.
Clearly though, research, is not a strong local attribute. Well in one part of the community!
Wouldn't that say, be pretty much anyone born on the island under the GFA?
And the IFA's determination to, er, widen their search...
In spite of having it explained to you on at least one occasion previously, you still don't grasp a basic tenet of eligibility to play for Northern Ireland ie. it is a prerequisite that you have British Citizenship.
Could I suggest you research the CAS conclusion more thoroughly?
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
As I am unaware of his alleged source, and the nature of any supporting evidence, I am not in a position to comment on how he could do right by his position.
However, it is quite plausible that his source (and evidence) might be a player (s), and that he is respecting their wishes at this point in time.
It's certainly a massive allegation to make, with potentially huge fallout, if proven.
If he is making it up, and it is proven that he is making it up, his position within the AONISC would be, in my opinion, untenable.
I don't believe Gary is that stupid, based on my dealings with him.
What he will do, as he always does, is what he believes to be best for the future of the Northern Ireland international teams.
Anyway, "urge him" directly, if you wish.
Last edited by Not Brazil; 03/02/2012 at 8:53 AM.
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
If you truly believe his accussations to have foundation which you say you do, you should be able to grasp the serious of his accussations and the need to address this asap. Nobody wants players "switching" under the circumstances your friend Gary says he is privy to.
Sure.
Absolutely.
There is no doubt method behind Gary's madness, and why he won't follow through with his accussations.
Gary's no friend of mine.
Last edited by ifk101; 03/02/2012 at 9:10 AM.
Yes, of course I have grasped the seriousness of the allegations....that's why I said:
"it's certainly a massive allegation to make".
Gary will deal with it as he see's fit. I would imagine if he has sources, and they have requested anonymity at this time, that he would wholly respect that.
If/When the exact details of the allegations emerge into the public domain, that's the time for discussing them.
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
So how do you explain the IFA sniffing round anybody and everybody, out of pure desperation then? And that the GFA allows for duel citizenship.Or easier access to it.
And clearly you've forgotten how unselective the Brits are when it comes to handing out passports. Especially when it comes to their sports teams...
Though I guess it would help even more so if you're a white South African!
Last edited by ArdeeBhoy; 03/02/2012 at 9:57 AM.
ArdeeBhoy, are you suggesting that someone born in Connemara or Dingle is eligible for NI under the GFA?
If you are, I suggest you pull your oar in, you're not going to win that one.
His Twitter profile does contain the following with attached proviso:
"Press Officer and Chairman of the Amalgamation of Official Northern Ireland Supporters' Clubs. Views are my own."
But, I do agree; the nature of these allegations are too serious for him to admit to having made them up for the sake of an argument and not be held accountable for that.
No JD, I'm suggesting they'll use whatever grounds they can to recruit players, however tenuous. Which in many cases they're entitled to do, but their hypocrisy is staggering. Not least of the fans.
Or the paranoia is too deep-rooted...
Macallisterian intrigue.
Could the Gary & Sam stage act be taking their cue from this politician?
PS. The fact that Soviet spies were rampant in the US State Department and not purged until Reagan was given a list of their names from French intelligence, does in no way vindicate McCarthy's list, it actually proves McCarty's list was bogus
I got slightly mixed up in my thinking - Sam had named McClean, McAllister hadn't. Having said that the temptation to presume the allegations relate to McClean is very strong since he's the current eligibility poster boy. Regardless I was referring solely to McClean.
Ou-est le Centre George Pompidou?
It's safe to assume the allegations relate to McClean turning down the North's call in August 2011. What happened was as follows. A crack team of FAI Maiden City sympathisers got wind of Nigel's intentions to call on McClean and subsequently set about a distasteful process of abuse and intimidation to which McClean was left with no option but to turn Nigel down and declare "My dream has always been to play for the Republic of Ireland". In a subsequent contact between McClean and Gary AONISC, Gary AONISC became privy to the FAI's Maiden City crack team of abusers and intimidators and their role in poaching McClean to the dark side and the adoration of foot.ie members, a vile site of sectarian filled vitriolic hatred repute. But being a man of integrity, justice and high morals, Gary vowed to McClean not to reveal the duress he is under, evident by his outstanding performances for Sunderland FC to date, but rather to save this information for a more opportune time.
Just e-mailed the following letter to the Derry Journal, Belfast Telegraph and Irish News in relation to Diane Dodds' silly comments in the European Parliament the other day with the hope of having it published. Thought the comments were worth highlighting to a broader audience if possible.
Sir,
At a sitting of the European Parliament on the 1st of February, 2012, Diane Dodds MEP of the DUP raised the so-called Northern Ireland player eligibility issue within the context of citation AH of the parliament's Report on the European Dimension in Sport. This is in spite of the fact that formal closure was brought to this footballing dispute between the Irish Football Association and the Football Association of Ireland a year and a half ago by the Court of Arbitration for Sport in the July 2010 case of Daniel Kearns.
Citation AH of the aforementioned report reads:
"[W]hereas national teams have a key role to play, international competitions continue to constitute a reference model and action should be taken against 'naturalisations of convenience'."
It was disappointing to listen to a European representative for this part of the world attempt to dismiss as "naturalisations of convenience" the Irish nationality of players born north of the border who opt to play for the FAI. Irish nationals born north of the border are Irish nationals as of birthright; they do not fall under the category of naturalised Irish nationals, never mind their nationality amounting to "naturalisations of convenience". Referring to their Irish nationality in the context of citation AH was thus insulting and wholly inappropriate. Dodds could, of course, plead ignorance as to the nature of the nationality of these players, but she is, after all, an educated woman with years of experience in politics, so one cannot help but suspect she was setting out to broadly offend by her comments.
Over a decade on from the signing of the Good Friday Agreement, is it not long past the time that certain public servants should have acknowledged the undisputed legitimacy of the national identity of the largest minority community north of the border?
Yours.
Trouble is you'd confuse half the readers of The BT.
Not to mention certain others...
The IFA have not been "sniffing round anybody and everybody".
They have been seeking out players that are eligible to play for Northern Ireland - this, by definition, means British Citizens otherwise eligible to play for Northern Ireland, as per FIFA Statutes.
Haven't a clue what point, in context, you were trying to make re: dual nationality, passports and the GFA.
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
More waffle.
The IFA attempt to recruit players who are eligible to play for Northern Ireland.
In the case of British Citizens not born in Northern Ireland, the relevent FIFA statutes must be complied with...parent, grandparent, etc.
In ALL cases, they are entitled to recruit eligible players.
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
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