Licences 2011

**hoopy** · 14/02/2011, 2:03 PM

So it's take your chances time again going to Drogheda and hope the away 'stand' doesn't collapse on top of you?

**Magicme** · 14/02/2011, 2:07 PM

Ok now am worried, just heard that the FAI have given Galway til Monday now for their appeal. While I wish them all the best, I also hope they only get a fd licence coz I cant take the heartbreak of losing out again in one season.

**marinobohs** · 14/02/2011, 2:08 PM

Originally Posted by hoopy

So it's take your chances time again going to Drogheda and hope the away 'stand' doesn't collapse on top of you?

.... unless they can get the local council to build them a stadium

Seriously, don't the FAI own Hunky Dory Park ? Maybe explains why they rate it "Premier" standard.

**Longfordian** · 14/02/2011, 2:15 PM

Originally Posted by Magicme

Ok now am worried, just heard that the FAI have given Galway til Monday now for their appeal. While I wish them all the best, I also hope they only get a fd licence coz I cant take the heartbreak of losing out again in one season.

Monday would be five working days wouldn't it? Seems fair enough. As no new information can now be considered, supposedly, I'm not sure there's any grounds under the rules to overturn the decision or award only a First Division licence but the latter wouldn't really affect anyone else unduly, so I wouldn't rule it out,

**Dodge** · 14/02/2011, 2:21 PM

Originally Posted by marinobohs

.... unless they can get the local council to build them a stadium

Seriously, don't the FAI own Hunky Dory Park ? Maybe explains why they rate it "Premier" standard.

United Park is grand. 2 entrances. Seats on both sides of ground. COvered terrace for away fans. Toilets/food all there. Whats the problem?

**Strawberry** · 14/02/2011, 2:21 PM

Originally Posted by hoopy

So it's take your chances time again going to Drogheda and hope the away 'stand' doesn't collapse on top of you?

My favourite away section in the country

**hoopy** · 14/02/2011, 2:24 PM

Originally Posted by Dodge

United Park is grand. 2 entrances. Seats on both sides of ground. COvered terrace for away fans. Toilets/food all there. Whats the problem?

Is that what you call it

I suppose it's different for clubs who fill it.

**WoodquayBoy** · 14/02/2011, 2:24 PM

EVERY club has been given 5 days to appeal, not just United (and not sure if that means clubs can appeal against other clubs getting a licence, we could be here all month if that is the case!) But as previous poster said, it is all or nothing - Premier Licence or bust, is every sense

**gilberto_eire** · 14/02/2011, 2:24 PM

Originally Posted by jebus

Usual fingerpointing going on over who is to blame for each clubs failings (oddly enoughly it's always with other clubs for some reason)

Galway didn't pay their players, Galway didn't deserve a license. End of story.

Any Galway fan giving out about the FAI can shut it after their lies held Dundalk back a few years ago as well

Congrats to Mons for their promotion

Applications were made to join a NEW league.

Let the last decade hate go, it's getting old.

Limerick just about scrapped a D1 license but you don't see anyone saying that was unfortunate(and that they shouldn't have got any)

**hoopy** · 14/02/2011, 2:26 PM

Originally Posted by marinobohs

.... unless they can get the local council to build them a stadium

I told you before, I'd much rather the FAI bought it and then sold it to us for a pound, just like Dalymount.

**compo** · 14/02/2011, 2:30 PM

Originally Posted by Dodge

Bohs was never in doubt once the players were in agreement. Drogheda don't owe any players /clusb anything.

Presume Cork, Monaghan, Longford and Athlone gettinga premier licnse is a 'Pale' thing as well is it?

No, just good management.

**White Horse** · 14/02/2011, 2:34 PM

Originally Posted by Dodge

United Park is grand. 2 entrances. Seats on both sides of ground. COvered terrace for away fans. Toilets/food all there. Whats the problem?

Always enjoy my visits to United Park. I don't see what is wrong with the ground.

**jebus** · 14/02/2011, 2:35 PM

Originally Posted by gilberto_eire

Applications were made to join a NEW league.

Let the last decade hate go, it's getting old.

Limerick just about scrapped a D1 license but you don't see anyone saying that was unfortunate(and that they shouldn't have got any)

non-League fans thinking they can talk about LoI business

**pineapple stu** · 14/02/2011, 2:35 PM

Originally Posted by White Horse

Always enjoy my visits to United Park. I don't see what is wrong with the ground.

Agreed (apart from the toilets, which are invariably disgusting).

I think the only argument about Drogheda's ground is that it clearly doesn't meet licencing, which other clubs have raised and spent (and been given for free) a lot of money in meeting. But as a ground, it's generally grand.

**marinobohs** · 14/02/2011, 2:35 PM

Originally Posted by hoopy

I told you before, I'd much rather the FAI bought it and then sold it to us for a pound, just like Dalymount.

wasn't that when you were lecturing us about owing money to Brian Shelley ? Guess your recall of history is somewhat selective

At the time dalymount was virtually worthless but the value increased dramatically when we got rid of the crowd that were renting

**marinobohs** · 14/02/2011, 2:38 PM

Originally Posted by WoodquayBoy

EVERY club has been given 5 days to appeal, not just United (and not sure if that means clubs can appeal against other clubs getting a licence, we could be here all month if that is the case!) But as previous poster said, it is all or nothing - Premier Licence or bust, is every sense

Are any club appealing ? and if so on what basis ? i would have thought that the facts were fairly clear - criteria is met of not. presumably saying that you will adhere to criteria next week/month/year is not a basis for appeal (or are the fudge pots acooking already ?)

**micls** · 14/02/2011, 2:42 PM

I don't see that Galway have a case for appeal tbh, with no new stuff allowed.

That said, the licencing committee fudged last season to give us an extra week to sort out the takeover and tax clearance etc with Tom Coughlan (although it didnt happen in time in the end).

If they'd done the same for Galway it sounds like they'd have gotten the licence. So they have a right to feel aggrieved, and may claim there's precedence for that.

**compo** · 14/02/2011, 2:44 PM

Originally Posted by CSFShels

Derry and Cork formed new clubs. If Galway had decided to do this they could have gotten a First Division licence too most likely.

Not in Cork's case. While the old company, Cork City FC Investments Ltd went into liquidation, the underage teams continued to operate. FORAS obtained a 1st Division licence and, while the underage teams, under liquidator's supervision/permission saw out their season, the LOI team was forced to adopt a temporary alteration to the operating name. Subsequently, FORAS obtained the assets of the old company from the liquidator, including the intellectual property, permitting us to once again operate under the correct name. The FAI have confirmed to us that they see us as the same club which entered the LOI in 1984.

**Longfordian** · 14/02/2011, 2:47 PM

The committee may have had the discretion to do that, not sure how they have or did last year either, but the precedent isn't binding on them. The appeals almost never succeed

**WoodquayBoy** · 14/02/2011, 2:50 PM

Re; Marinobohs - That was said with tongue in cheek, but there you go, a 'whoosh' moment.
Criteria was clearly not met, as the licence was not awarded. What we are hoping is that documentation to be provided this week confirms verbal commitments outlined in the original application, and therefore is not new evidence, but merely confirmation of what was said in application (in response to micls).