Summary of clubs in difficulty at the moment

**Dodge** · 17/01/2011, 11:36 AM

Loads of threads, bit all over the place. I’ll see if I can summarise. Feel free to amend and update

Bohs
Currently being chased in high court for wages owed to 2 players. Another 8 haven’t been paid. Fundraising by funs is ongoing but is only to be released to club if a premier division licence is granted. Players under contract negotiating pay off with club, no agreement yet. Debts still there and fundraising efforts are primarily to get rid of players.
Biggest question?
What happens if Bohs don’t get premier license? They be in first division with huge contracts and without the six figure sums raised by fans? Are Bohs effectively blackmailing the league. License must be an issue for them, otherwise why mention it?

Drogheda
Looking for fans to raise €200k in order to pay for semi pro team next year. If the money isn’t raised board will recommend winding club up.
Biggest question?
How much to go amateur/local for a year and why isn’t this option being pursued?

Galway
Debts not too bad it seems but presence of Leeson seems to be biggest problem for fans, sponsors and the Galway football community. Team going more local but seems a sensible enough decision (see Drogs above)
Biggest question?
Does Leeson have a contract? If not how can the board justify not sacking him? Hopefully the hard working GUST can make things more transparent

While other clubs are cutting back (some severely), none seem to be in any real danger (despite rumours about Fingal in particular) and the 3 here seem in the most danger

Oh and Sunday newspaper journos, you're welcome! No need for you to dig around now...

**pineapple stu** · 17/01/2011, 11:43 AM

Originally Posted by Dodge

Galway
Debts not too bad it seems

Close on a million per their last filed accounts. Quite big by any LoI club's standards.

**marinobohs** · 17/01/2011, 11:47 AM

Dodge, couple of things on Bohs part - Premier Licence issue relates to loan agreement not fundraising, proposed deal with players would cover costs of players remaining for 2011 season and if we dont get agreement with players we wont get any licence (to the best of my knowledge and subject to fudge)

**Spudulika** · 17/01/2011, 11:56 AM

Good summary, I expect it'll be added to in due course.

One question, if Bohs only get an A licence, or even a 1st Division one, will they still be eligible for the Europa League, from UEFA rules they should be so long as they comply with insurance and medicals. Cork were still playing in Europe until the end of the game, I thought.

**John83** · 17/01/2011, 12:05 PM

There's also Sporting Fingal, who've lost their main sponsor in Gannon (something like 750k last year? And a €60k(?) loss all the same). The move to Dalymount also adds to their costs. They're making out like everything's okay, though the numbers don't add up for some of us.

**pineapple stu** · 17/01/2011, 12:24 PM

They're paying (small; four-figure) transfer fees for players too, so they've cash somewhere.

**Quayman** · 17/01/2011, 12:29 PM

Last year Dundalk had a 200k loan/deficit and the loan taken out was to be repaid fairly quickly so I'd say taking the interest on the loan into account, we didnt look to healty although crowds where similar to previous years, we had a cup run in the League cup, Europe, several televised games which gave us a boost. We are not in severe trouble but its reported that the playing budget is one of the lowest in the league around the 7 k mark.

**Dodge** · 17/01/2011, 12:29 PM

AFAIK Finglas have a backer on board so should be OK. I'd be pretty confiednet of saying they'll be in premier league and europe next year

Originally Posted by Spudulika

One question, if Bohs only get an A licence, or even a 1st Division one, will they still be eligible for the Europa League, from UEFA rules they should be so long as they comply with insurance and medicals. Cork were still playing in Europe until the end of the game, I thought.

No, its a progression. Everything you need for a premier license is included in the UEFA license (and of course, more). Cork last played in Europe in 2008. It was the end of that seaso that their problems erupted

Originally Posted by marinobohs

Dodge, couple of things on Bohs part - Premier Licence issue relates to loan agreement not fundraising, proposed deal with players would cover costs of players remaining for 2011 season and if we dont get agreement with players we wont get any licence (to the best of my knowledge and subject to fudge)

Ah OK, this makes more sense. Whats the latest in terms of a)funds raised and b)money pledged in loans? Theorhetically Bohs could come to agreement with players, and still not get a Premier license. In this case, the fundraising would have to pay for players (etc) with loan money reverting to fans. Bohs working on tiny enough budget? (and I don't know if there are definite reasons why they would be denied a license)

**oriel** · 17/01/2011, 12:31 PM

Originally Posted by Spudulika

Good summary, I expect it'll be added to in due course.

One question, if Bohs only get an A licence, or even a 1st Division one, will they still be eligible for the Europa League, from UEFA rules they should be so long as they comply with insurance and medicals. Cork were still playing in Europe until the end of the game, I thought.

Bohs will not be eligible to play in Europe if the do not get a PD licence, it is the FAI who nominates clubs, so their place will most likely go the next best highest finishing side from 2010, which would be St Pats.

**passinginterest** · 17/01/2011, 12:31 PM

Fingal seem to have found funding from somewhere. I heard from a reliable source they'll have 18 full time pro's for the coming season, source was also very sceptical about the reliability of the promised funds and the long term prospects of the club as a professional outfit.

**The Lep** · 17/01/2011, 12:32 PM

Originally Posted by John83

There's also Sporting Fingal, who've lost their main sponsor in Gannon (something like 750k last year? And a €60k(?) loss all the same). The move to Dalymount also adds to their costs. They're making out like everything's okay, though the numbers don't add up for some of us.

It doesnt matter if the numbers dont add up for you.The thread is about clubs in difficulty at the moment and Fingal isnt one of them. Dodge has it right.

**Dodge** · 17/01/2011, 12:39 PM

Its about the clubs most in trouble. Its the LOI, we're all one bad decsion away from the next crisis

**John83** · 17/01/2011, 12:39 PM

Originally Posted by The Lep

It doesnt matter if the numbers dont add up for you.The thread is about clubs in difficulty at the moment and Fingal isnt one of them. Dodge has it right.

And in any summary on that subject, it's reasonable to mention a club which has had news stories like this one in the past month.

**The Lep** · 17/01/2011, 12:43 PM

Im sure Dodge would have added Fingal if the thread was started before xmas and fair enough but read what the thread says, MOST IN TROUBLE AT THE MOMENT.